Starting Issues.

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Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

If its cranking speed is slightly slower than you are used to i'd guess it needs a starter motor.
If cranking speed is normal and injectors have not been replaced or was round 100K ago, then its time for new injectors.

The 2.2 eats injectors round 100K.
The 2.4 round 150K.

both can give a slight engine clatter when cold but also once right up at normal engine temps.

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Thanks Dazza. There has been no fault recorded that relates to injectors. They've done 180,000 Ks. As far as I can tell they're functioning normally. Engine performance through the rev range, and at various loads is normal. I wouldn't be replacing them until they drop their guts.

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Originally Posted by cuppabillytea

Thanks Dazza. There has been no fault recorded that relates to injectors. They've done 180,000 Ks. As far as I can tell they're functioning normally. Engine performance through the rev range, and at various loads is normal. I wouldn't be replacing them until they drop their guts.

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*you wont get injector fault codes on a Defender, the ecu is simply not high tech enough, as in what has been programmed as a fault etc.

*if they have never been done, you have been warned. talk to any decent Land Rover or Ford repairer.
*Rangers and injector replacement are common, 2.2 and 3.2
*cracked piston here it comes...

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Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

....The 2.4 round 150K.

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Interesting.... What do you replace the injectors with? Factory, or....?

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Originally Posted by skidrov

Interesting.... What do you replace the injectors with? Factory, or....?

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I don'y think there's an option. even if there is what would be better?

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Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

*you wont get injector fault codes on a Defender, the ecu is simply not high tech enough, as in what has been programmed as a fault etc.

*if they have never been done, you have been warned. talk to any decent Land Rover or Ford repairer.
*Rangers and injector replacement are common, 2.2 and 3.2
*cracked piston here it comes...

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fault the ECU is telling me is: Low pressure in the rail.
I've said, Service is booked in for two weeks time at Graham Coopers, I'll have them check it out and may very well replace the injectors, but at this stage I still think I have a faulty sensor.

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Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

*you wont get injector fault codes on a Defender, the ecu is simply not high tech enough, as in what has been programmed as a fault etc.

*if they have never been done, you have been warned. talk to any decent Land Rover or Ford repairer.
*Rangers and injector replacement are common, 2.2 and 3.2
*cracked piston here it comes...

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Hay Daza. I'm Back at work for two weeks on Monday. I'd be doing about 800 Ks in that time. Would you think it prudent to use alternative transport?

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Originally Posted by skidrov

Interesting.... What do you replace the injectors with? Factory, or....?

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a 2.4 DENSO
a 2.2 Continental (VDO, siemens)

last week...
a 2.4 Defender 300K never been done, so thats a good run (i think a bit lucky)
a 3.2 ranger, 70K done under warranty, bad run, but good outcome.
a 2.2 Defender 130K cracked piston, engine replaced.

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Originally Posted by cuppabillytea

Hay Daza. I'm Back at work for two weeks on Monday. I'd be doing about 800 Ks in that time. Would you think it prudent to use alternative transport?

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*I'm sure it will be fine, all I am doing is guessing at why it takes a bit to start.
*I've not seen a 2.2 with a faulty sensor is all.
*nor have I seen a 2.2 with a faulty SCV

*yet both can be a problem on a 2.4

*I get Defenders in all the time that people tell me its running fine, yet I drive it and on that floating throttle on the freeway I can here it rattling, some quite bad.

I've had a good run then. Pumps were both done at 80,000 I might have to bight the bullet and do the whole bloody lot.

That could be fuel slowly running back to the tank, or the injectors leaking. Is it making oil?