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    Quote Originally Posted by Psimpson7 View Post
    TD5 defenders apart from very early ones dont have a water in fuel contamination light. They stopped fitting them. Is the car in question a TD5 or a 2.4?
    I stand corrected - there is no water-in-fuel warning light in new Defenders. I was mistakenly recalling the coolant warning light which looks somewhat like a water-in-fuel light that I used to have on a Jeep. Still, with the breather issue and common-rail issue there must be something contributing to the problem.


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    Interestingly tonight there was on ACA one of the articals was about excess water in fuel coming from servos. I think from memory that it was something like 8% by volume which is WAY over whats permissable according to the A.S. for fuels. For that much to be in there by volume the suspension rate would have to be past the 90% mark. It wouldnt take too many refuels from a servo with that much water in the fuel to overcome the sedimentor and seperator in a truck let alone a rover and with the colder weather it would settle out into the bottom of the tank in very short order as well.

    IMHO if the paper element of the filter isnt water saturated or water blocked theres no requirement to change the rest of the system and theres some dead simple tests that any decent filter shop should be able to do to work that one out. If theres any sign of water saturation on the outlet side of the filter then further investigation is required.

    From my perspective as a Greaser you dont get to keep the parts that are changed under manufactureres warrenty and If I knew the manufacturer was going to foot the bill then Id change every single component in the fuel system (including the tank) except for the lines and then they'd get a bloody thorough flush out. An insurance job would depend on the insurer as to weather or not you got to keep them and if you were paying for it, any part thats safe to re-use you get to keep.

    from a 2 minute google theres a couple of variences on how water in the fuel system is dealt with by third party warrenties. some will cover it if its water ingested from the fuel that can be traced back to a problem with the Emission control system of the vehicle but for the life of me I cant work out how you can prove that. Other than that water in the fuel is a problem for you, your insurer and the fuel companies.


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    As I keep telling this forum, bung on a Racor Separator and filter. Listen to the acquired wisdom of the elders. It cost us lots of roadside nights and dollars (pounds, some of us) to acquire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psimpson7 View Post
    TD5 defenders apart from very early ones dont have a water in fuel contamination light. They stopped fitting them. Is the car in question a TD5 or a 2.4?
    My 2001 TD5 does, and my mates 2005 Extreme does ... ?! both have been tested and work fine..!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm View Post
    As I keep telling this forum, bung on a Racor Separator and filter. Listen to the acquired wisdom of the elders. It cost us lots of roadside nights and dollars (pounds, some of us) to acquire.
    Brian - have you got any links for this. All I can find on Google is Bus and Truck stuff. Where did you get yours from?

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    thanks guys, its still in hands of insurance co at the moment.

    scouse thanks i'am dealing with peter so will give him a call and make sure he is aware of te issue with regards the tank breather.

    teh car has also got a mis fire did i mention that (sorry so much going round my head it takes a while to filter to teh correct part of the brain) weather this was casued by teh water i dont know.

    yes, i have learnt aharsh lesson so have a new filter water separtor thing on order, prevntive maintenace we all know its good but put it too back of our minds.

    will keep you all updated as some thing happens.

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    Thats crap DB, sorry to hear that... I wanna go wring someones neck on your behalf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cameron_Def View Post
    My 2001 TD5 does, and my mates 2005 Extreme does ... ?! both have been tested and work fine..!
    How did you test this without err.. putting water in the tank? Mine's a 2003, would love to get to the bottom of this.

    I wonder if it can be fitted retrospectively?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm View Post
    As I keep telling this forum, bung on a Racor Separator and filter. Listen to the acquired wisdom of the elders. It cost us lots of roadside nights and dollars (pounds, some of us) to acquire.
    Yet we hear that we shouldn't put aftermarket filters in a modern full flow system. The pump etc rely on the fuel for cooling. Yes I know TD%s don't have a pump, but the principle is the same. Isn't it?

    Have you tested the fuel pressure before & after fitting the Racor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyDawg View Post
    Thats crap DB, sorry to hear that... I wanna go wring someones neck on your behalf

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    Tusker - Have you been on maesco.com - Mid-Atlantic Engine Supply Corp. ? Click on the Racor link. They have a Pro Vent system of their own too.

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