Thread: defender 130 purchase??? used vs new

I forgot to mention...

Im tipping big red to 500K Km prior to a total engine rebuild/replace
Clutches will probabley be 150K Kmish or so along with engine mounts
Gearboxes every 250K Km
Uj's every 100K Km propshafts every 200K Km
No diffs unless I go a locker Ditto axles

I'll probabley let her go at about the second clutch. how do I know this...

Its about all I ever get out of a vehicle But most of my replacements are precautionaries.


While I have no doubt that they will be able to push the transit donk out past the td5's total output having seen the remnants of a grenaded transit donk I dont think it has the structural strength to deal with massive upgrades but then I didnt think I could keep the TD5 together with the chip its got in it now... (and Im still waiting for the budget for the new exhauast, turbo and the intercooler)

Originally Posted by spudboy

I've got a Td5 130 and a Puma 110, so can offer a direct comparison. Both of mine are bog standard, apart from a straight through pipe (i.e.no muffler) on the TD5.

Both excellent engines I reckon. Longevity of the puma is of course unknown but being based on a "white-van" Transit engine would expect it to go a good distance.

TD5 is better on fuel.

The Puma engined car is SO much quiter at 110 than the TD5, but that is due to the 6 speed gearbox and the heap of extra soundproofing they put in the newer model. Dash looks more civilised on the new model but I really miss the flow through ventilation from the front flaps on the TD5.

I'm hoping that the engine ECU tweaks currently available for the TD5 will eventually turn up for the Puma. As DullBird said - they will get here in a while.

There seem to be a few (BIG) problems here and there posted on the Aust & UK LR sites but to date I have been lucky and had a good run since taking delivery 9 months ago.

Good luck making your decision!

what you getting out of them both?

i'm supprised with the new having the 6th gear

also i heard that in the uk people are now reporting good fuel economy from there pumas BUT that because they have a fair few thousand miles on them now, apparently you wont get good economy from the new's until the engine has been well run in, apparently everything is to tight

i asked ian and he said it was about 20,000k to 30,000k to losen them up.....(not sure where he got those figures though)

TD5 I'm doing about 9.5L/100

Puma I'm doing 10.5L/100

Similar driving conditions, up and down the Adelaide Hills, with not much stop start traffic work at all. I don't get into 6th all that often in the 110 as it is mostly 80Km/h limits around here.

I have heard that the diesels get better consumption with age, so I am hoping it is true.

Isuzudriver...or others......what is the upgrade cost of the Salisbury diff....is it really worth it?

Blknight.Aus "I reckon that'll change but I dont know how much extra meat is in the engine to deal with it.".......if you have a look at the following website the UK are already doing it....upto 134kw and 450NM of torque....pretty impressive.....but not sure about fuel consumption with these chips in hphttp://www.jeengineering.co.uk/d_diesel_eng.htm ....did you have you 110 TD5 standard new or did you buy secondhand chipped???? fuel consumption differences??

Xavie.....I see you have recently sold your 110 which was reasonably well decked out...what were the costs of the accessories.....judging by your comment "cheap" they're not too exxy??

Keep the info coming guys.

Cheers

Originally Posted by spudboy

TD5 I'm doing about 9.5L/100

Puma I'm doing 10.5L/100


I have heard that the diesels get better consumption with age, so I am hoping it is true.

hmmm.... I was generally getting good but loaded with a trailer OR stop start dirt roads I was getting up to 17.5 litres per 100.

Xav

Originally Posted by Xavie

hmmm.... I was generally getting good but loaded with a trailer OR stop start dirt roads I was getting up to 17.5 litres per 100.

Xav

but you only owned your car for 5mins...hardly a run in eingine

Originally Posted by stace70

Isuzudriver...or others......what is the upgrade cost of the Salisbury diff....is it really worth it?

No ... not worth it at all .. some people are stuck on Isuzu engines and Salisbury Diffs. Clearance is better on the rover diffs.

Originally Posted by Greylandy

No ... not worth it at all .. some people are stuck on Isuzu engines and Salisbury Diffs. Clearance is better on the rover diffs.

I'm with Henry.

If and when it breaks look at the options with regards to a stronger unit in a rover casing.

If you dont have larger wheels/tyres and you don't do heroic driving then let things take their course.