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    Quote Originally Posted by yeboants View Post
    Point taken.. thanks :-)
    yeah thought the ones on the front didn't look strong enough..
    anyway... guess i assumed it will come standard on the 110.. maybe not.
    might go and get some this weekend.
    going fraser next week and left this option a bit late..

    thanks again for the warning.
    recovery points are standard on jap 4x4's
    land rover owners choose to fit recoverer points

    cheers phil

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    I am going through the same at the moment. Tow bar and recovery hooks for new Defender.
    I want the ARB towbar so in the future I can add a long range tank. However I lose the back step with an ARB bar. I have one on order with the Hendra branch that they say will be there next week. I can't afford it next week so feel free to take mine.
    Also Arrow Caravans & Towbars 45 Robinson Rd East 3630 8181 have one in stock at the moment for $532 fitted which is a $100 cheaper than ARB.
    TJM at present do not have a towbar designed for new Defender.

    Have not yet found anywhere that can do recovery points although ARB suggested I try EDS, whoever they are.

    Not intending to do any advertising with this post, just pointing out info I got yesterday after much driving around.
    Kenley

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    Don't wait - ring around and see if you can find some JATE rings or any rated recovery point to at least use in the interim. Best bot to go on the beach without suitable recovery points !
    It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".


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    tyres to 15 PSI and you will be right.

    if you need to recover do it from the front and use 2 soft slings

    wrap the sling around the axle tube alongside the hocky stick and feed it back through its own eye, snig that down, same same on the other side.

    shackle the 2 eyes together and theres your front recovery point.

    you cant do the same on the rear as you have the brake lines to be worried about.

    if youve got the standard rover tow point that will work for up to a single line winch recovery.
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    When you get A Hayman Reece towbar you can get the adapter with shackle that goes into the receiver allowing attachment of straps or drag chains or whatever.

    I picked one up today @ TJM for a good price.
    It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".


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    Scorpion have bolt-on recovery points for the Defender. Rover Craft distribute them in Australia.

    I've got this on the rear:


    Couldn't afford a tow bar just yet and needed a rear recovery point - from memory it was around the $100 mark.

    They also have Jate Rings:


    Don't have them yet - but looks like I need to get them asap as I wasn't aware that the front points were only tie down points!

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    Quote Originally Posted by samuelclarke View Post
    Scorpion have bolt-on recovery points for the Defender. Rover Craft distribute them in Australia.

    I've got this on the rear:


    Couldn't afford a tow bar just yet and needed a rear recovery point - from memory it was around the $100 mark.

    They also have Jate Rings:


    Don't have them yet - but looks like I need to get them asap as I wasn't aware that the front points were only tie down points!
    You need one of these front and rear
    Last edited by Bearman; 17th August 2009 at 12:39 PM.

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    .... Just to play devils advocate.
    Allegedly an 8.8 bolt has a shear strength of 375 N/mm2

    So those tie down points each with a new M10 8.8 bolt through them, bridled would have a shear strength of near to 59,000N, depending on bridle length. Technically the rear pin on a 50mm towbar at 16mm will be 75,000N in shear? The problem with those tie down rings is they will rotate to the line of pull and potentially wedge the shackle.

    What are the fancy JATE rings rated at... they are still only a single 10mm shank in shear.

    S

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    The Jate rings etc use the same size bolt as the lash down/tie down eyes.

    The problem is not so much as in the bolt but in the eye. The loading force on the eye is not very often in the plane of the eye . IF the force is in the plane of the eye that force is transmitted into a shear force onto the bolt.

    The forces are normally OUT of the plane of the eye and distorts the eye, puts a mixed shear and tensile load onto the bolt. Having seen the twisted remains of some of these lash down eyes (OK have personally not seen one fail YET!) I do not want to be anywhere near a recovery being carried out using these.

    The Jate rings tend to keep the forces on the bolts more in the shear direction. Also you are spreading the load across both ends of the bolt so for a given pull are halving the shearing force on any given point in the bolt in comparison to the single point loading of the lash down eye.

    Hope that makes sense.

    Regards

    Brendan

    PS There is a good reason why they are called lash down/tie down points and are NOT called recovery points

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    Fair cop that.

    I guess i am allergic to dynamic recovery unless all static avenues exhausted (mostly due to 3ish tonne 130 towing a 1ish tonne trailer means a dynamic recovery is some scary numbers) Just last week getting home from bathurst we clean broke a "4tonne rated" winch extension strap when trying to winch the above rig out of some goop. The anchor was a hilux which was being pulled towards before breakage. So out with the shovels and after a bit of digging around the sunken salisbury and trailer, re-tie the strap and out she came slow and steady. I imagine if the luxy had tried to snatch the 130 initially we could have made metal fly.

    For a static pull I have and still would bridle off those tie downs if no other option was available.

    S

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