TD5 Dual Mass Flywheel upgrade advice....

mine lasted to just shy of 130K before slipping, IF I can just get SWMBO to change the gears with correct rev matching and without riding the clutch more than your average tour de france bike It should make 150K before I desperately have to change it. I priced the solid flywheel and plates at 1900 add that to changing every oil the coolant all the filters and the laccy band and theres not much change from 2.5 (the dual mass saved me $100)

What Im fearing and will be the clincher to me going to the single mass is that its not the clutch thats gone its the dual mass, if thats let go then It'll be a case of change driving techniques and fit the single.

This time last year I fitted a solid flywheel conversion to my defender. It has made the gearbox rattle when idling, and sometimes shudders on extreem hill starts (could possibly be suspension bushes). The initial cost was slightly higher, but will be offset if I need to replace it again. Unlike the dual mass flywheels they can be faced when changing the clutch.
Due to possible wear in the dual mass flywheel it was recommended to me that it should be changed every time with the rest of the clutch, as they can not be accurately checked for balance and internal spring condition, which may cause failure.
The clutch supplier told me that he generally replaces most dual mass flywheels with solid flywheel conversions in his workshop and hasn't had any major problems.

done 255,000ks and still going

Funny enough Ive just remembered, I was in the clutch and brake place in Alice Springs last month - Got talking to the chap and he said that he always suggests to customers with TD5's to dump the Dual Mass and replace with a Solid conventional unit.

What would really annoy me is if I just stick a plate and cover in and then in 6 months or so I need to go back in to change the DM (as Im lead to believe is quite a normal sequence of events). Then, all things considered its probably worth biting the bullet and doing the conversion!

I have a chap here in the UK thats supposed to be calling me back who actually has one in his car. Will see what he says and let you all know.

8months ago when i was chasing a solid one, britpart had them but they had returned their stock to the supplier due to complaints and malfunctions:eek:
thats when i went with a DM one.

cheers phil

I am about to fit a solid flywheel, the dual mass flywheel has spat.:( Internal springs appear to have collapsed or broken after 106000 k's. I see the dual mas flywheel doing two things- increased mass after the internal dampening reduces vibration in the driveline unlike a dampened clutch plate where the mass after the dampening is minimal and creates subsequent driveline vibration and secondly it is a more cost effective (cheaper) way for manufacturers to reduce vibration due to poor design, not that I have ever seen a poorly designed Land Rover. $1700.00 delivered to my door including heavy duty pressure plate, clutch plate, new flywheel mounting bolts and throwout bearing from CBA in Perth. :BigThumb:

And now I guarantee someone will come up with a cheaper source:mad:

Rick

CBA = who??

Jeff

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Originally Posted by bushrover

I am about to fit a solid flywheel, the dual mass flywheel has spat.:( Internal springs appear to have collapsed or broken after 106000 k's. I see the dual mas flywheel doing two things- increased mass after the internal dampening reduces vibration in the driveline unlike a dampened clutch plate where the mass after the dampening is minimal and creates subsequent driveline vibration and secondly it is a more cost effective (cheaper) way for manufacturers to reduce vibration due to poor design, not that I have ever seen a poorly designed Land Rover. $1700.00 delivered to my door including heavy duty pressure plate, clutch plate, new flywheel mounting bolts and throwout bearing from CBA in Perth. :BigThumb:

And now I guarantee someone will come up with a cheaper source:mad:

Rick

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So long as the quality is there, $1700 sounds about comparable to the best UK converstion option. I wouldnt even consider dropping Britpart bits onto my truck - it needs to be reliable!!

Jon, have a quick chat with Andy or Rob at Four Plus 4 in Leeds and se what there experience has been in the UK market.

Regards

Brendan

First post here as a new member can't find a better place to post this.

I have used this site, and others, for research into the good the bad and the ugly, of fitting a solid flywheel and heavy duty clutch to a Discovery TD5.

In short, I am extremely happy with the result.

I bought an Exedy solid flywheel/clutch kit from Direct Clutch in Brisbane.
The Disco is smoother now than when it had the dual mass flywheel in. Maybe the DM was on the way out, after 207000 km.

I was going to post a video of the engine idling with a glass of water sitting on top, but this forum is a bit complicated.
The glass of water is hardly making waves at all.

Nick