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    Did I pay tooo much for my defender?

    G'day every one again!

    I was just wondering if you guys think I might of paid too much for my defender ute... I bought it for $8000 last month.

    Last week I got the timing belt changed (cost $676) and that same week the steering box went and that will be over $700, I havent got the bill for it yet.

    Second synchro is not very good at all... There is a lot of slack in the drive-train... Not sure what it is yet but it's not good. Since I have had it it has not wanted to sit at 100km/h very comfortably at all. It smokes a bit on start up (more then it should I think). Probably for a few seconds.

    It has a nice big bull bar and side steps but that's the only extra it has and it has no radio etc... The seat bases are all torn...

    Maybe I paid too much!?

    I am a bit dissapointed in the car seeings this is the most I have ever spent on a car and I am already looking at the problems it has and I havent had it very long.

    Cheers
    Ben

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    Did you get it inspected by a LR specialist, (NOT NRMA etc)before you signed on the dotted?
    The advantage in this is that you will get an idea of WHAT is wrong, what WILL go wrong and what Wont go wrong before you buy it.
    The price can be negotiated a little usually if there is a 'list' of concerns.

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    No I did not... I probably should of I bought it off some one I have known for a long time... I really would of thought I could trust him to get a decent car for a change, maybe I was wrong! He is a Mechanic but not for Land Rovers...

    Cheers
    Ben

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    Gday,

    What year / model is it ?

    Could be a bargin, depends on the model age and kms

    Where are you located s well ?

    Enjoy ya landy, once the simple things are sorted, they are a top 4wd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrlandyman100 View Post
    It smokes a bit on start up (more then it should I think). Probably for a few seconds.
    if its black smoke and a tdi than that the normal

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    Slack in the drivetrain - well my 2 week old brand new Defender with less than 1000k's on the clock has drive train slack - I've not seen a land rover drive train without some slack. My nearly 400,000 k range rover has had slack since I bought it at 127k - and it's still going.

    Timing belt is a a normal wear and tear item on a 300tdi, and you'll need to do this every 60,000k. So really that's a normal service item you'll pay for on any 300tdi.

    The R380 box 2nd synchro issue is something that is fairly common - My 2003 TD5 defender was crap from new - box rebuilt replaced 5-6 times. It's much better but still not perfect. It's a driving style that you adjust for - being a bit careful going into second - take it a bit slower - or learn double clutching. Worth finding MTF94 gearbox oil for the R380 box - it makes it a whole lot better than normal lube - at least on some boxes.

    Seats - Probably would have been visible before you bought it? Apparently Exmoor trim int he UK do fairly reasonably priced retrim kits, that are fairly easy to fit. I priced them up at about $100AUD a front seat. Perhaps a lower cost option would be to find someone wrecking a newer Fender. (a post on the forum might point you in the right direction)

    Unfortunately Defenders are quite a niche market - The price is very much up to how much cash you have in your pocket and how low the seller is willing to go. I just sold a 300tdi discovery for much more than that - so I'd say $8k was a bargain - but very much dependent on age/distance traveled/condition. (The 300tdi disco was pretty much mint condition and very low k's)

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    Yeah it is a 1993 200tdi with the LT77 gear box in it I thinks. It has 224000kms on the clock now it has had stuff like king pins etc... done to it recently. Yeah I just would of thought there would of been a bit less slack in the drive-train... When i drove series land rovers they did not have this much!

    Any one want to buy it? Dare I say I might buy a toyota next! I will see if I can get this thing running well I guess first... I am just over having cars that need things done to them!

    Thanks for your advice!

    Cheers
    Ben

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrlandyman100 View Post
    Yeah it is a 1993 200tdi with the LT77 gear box in it I thinks. It has 224000kms on the clock now it has had stuff like king pins etc... done to it recently. Yeah I just would of thought there would of been a bit less slack in the drive-train... When i drove series land rovers they did not have this much!

    Any one want to buy it? Dare I say I might buy a toyota next! I will see if I can get this thing running well I guess first... I am just over having cars that need things done to them!

    Thanks for your advice!

    Cheers
    Ben
    just visit a toyota forum first, you are in for a surprise i think...

    sounds like a reasonable sort of buy..

    the drive train slop may just be the axle drive plates....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrlandyman100 View Post
    G'day every one again!

    ..................Second synchro is not very good at all..........

    Cheers
    Ben
    FWIW you may benefit if you change the gearbox oil to Castrol Syntrans.... expensive but it has a longer use life ....

    overcame all crunchiness in mine....now smooth as...

    (others may care to comment)....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrlandyman100 View Post

    I am just over having cars that need things done to them!
    I hear ya Ben!


    Quote Originally Posted by 87County View Post
    FWIW you may benefit if you change the gearbox oil to Castrol Syntrans.... expensive but it has a longer use life ....

    overcame all crunchiness in mine....now smooth as...

    (others may care to comment)....

    Yes, I found syntrans very good. Takes a while to bed in though if that makes sense?

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