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    Rear spring/airbag setups?

    I have a county with +2" (soft) king springs and no load leveller.

    The soft springs gave good flex offroad, and was stiff enough for load carrying until a recent trip with 4 people and plenty of gear, food and fuel on board (not to mention a couple of ebay 8274s we picked up along the way - certainly didn't help). JC and Matt will attest to how low it was in the rear!!!

    So - the options are, to fit stiffer rear springs each time we go touring, or to fit airbags.

    What sort of lifespan can I expect from airbags???

    Conversely - what rear springs do you have in your county/110, what sort of load do you carry touring, and are you happy?

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    Ben,
    I used to have polyair bags in my county rear but they perished and didnt last that long so I experimented with a set of ex army perentie RFSV springs (double spring). I normally run on the outer coil only and when going on long trips with heavy loads I fit the inner coils. Seems to be a good combination. Bit hard on your back when empty if you leave the inner coils in............Brian

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    I have King KLRR-05HD's on the rear of the County and OME766's on the front. The rears are fairly heavy, but the car is permanently loaded with all the camping/touring gear as I've got another car as a daily driver. I've never had a problem with the rear sagging or anything. They probably don't have the travel of a softer spring, but they're still pretty good.......and front and rear Maxi's make up for the rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bearman View Post
    Ben,
    I used to have polyair bags in my county rear but they perished and didnt last that long so I experimented with a set of ex army perentie RFSV springs (double spring). I normally run on the outer coil only and when going on long trips with heavy loads I fit the inner coils. Seems to be a good combination. Bit hard on your back when empty if you leave the inner coils in............Brian
    Where did you get the RFSV springs?


    Does anyone have firestone airbags? Are they any better than polyairs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bearman View Post
    Ben,
    I used to have polyair bags in my county rear but they perished and didnt last that long so I experimented with a set of ex army perentie RFSV springs (double spring). I normally run on the outer coil only and when going on long trips with heavy loads I fit the inner coils. Seems to be a good combination. Bit hard on your back when empty if you leave the inner coils in............Brian
    Are they the same as 130 dual springs?

    I had a look around and found this-

    Suspension:
    The front suspension is similar to the civilian specification but has been upgraded. The Station Wagon utilises unlevelled suspension. Spring specifications are the same on all variants with the rear springs being identical from side to side.
    Which doesn't really say anything.

    And this, which is way off topic, and you need a subscription to get at it, but looks very interesting. Talks about developing ROPS for 4wds and Perentie development.

    Simon

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    I've used airbags from Airlift in 2 x 110 Defender and 1 x D1. Seem to be a robust piece of kit, easy to install and work very well. All cars standard height suspension but one set in Defender lasted > 8 years (compressor went), one still going strong in D1 > 12 years and the other Defender > 2 years. Worth checking if they do a set for a longer coil - I know they make a wide range for other cars so likely to do something that will fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panya View Post
    I've used airbags from Airlift in 2 x 110 Defender and 1 x D1. Seem to be a robust piece of kit, easy to install and work very well. All cars standard height suspension but one set in Defender lasted > 8 years (compressor went), one still going strong in D1 > 12 years and the other Defender > 2 years. Worth checking if they do a set for a longer coil - I know they make a wide range for other cars so likely to do something that will fit.
    could you please let us know where the Airlift bags can be bought?

    thanks - L

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    I bought them over the net in UK and had them sent to me in Kenya; not much help for you guys! Sorry!

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    Does anyone have firestone airbags? Are they any better than polyairs?
    We replaced the Rangies coil springs with Firestones, can't give much of a report yet as I have only driven it home from installing the springs and 4BD1 also had a trip to get the exhaust system done. No experience directly with Polyairs thou I know one guy who had one blow, he had been told to use a Hayman Reece Load Leveller for his 28ft caravan and redistribute the load not to throw everything in the front of the caravan, he knew better and pumped up the Polyairs to rock mode!

    Glenn

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    Does anybody know if there is a Firestone bag for the rear of the 110/defender and what is ref # is ?

    I know that Polyair are available but they are much dearer than Firestones if bought direct from US

    They only seem to list for discos & rrs....

    thanks - Laurie

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