Thread: So the PUMA goes back to the garage again tomorrow

Originally Posted by dullbird

*SIGH*

The Puma is going back to the garage again tomorrow for the engine rattle that they have still not found the fault to...

This problem has been chased for nearly 18months now..And its back again funnily enough with the colder weather! Again.

And is getting worse day by day.....Not to mention the added annoyance of pulsing on no throttle slightly down hill...which is also getting worse.

The other day the pulsing came on so much that it was making are second chins noticeably wobble

I think the only things that have yet to be looked at on this car is the MAF and the factory fuel mapping. I'm personally going with both. as the two issues we have now I think are separate.

Even more annoying than that is the time and money WE have to dedicate taking this car to the bloody garage..especially as we have to pay for a courtesy car, I just think its wrong! why should we have to keep paying for cars trains etc etc to get us home and back to the garage to pick up because they can't find a fault on our car.. I need to count up how many times the car has been in that garage BUT IT IS A LOT.....and has cost us a lot of money.

You don't buy new cars so you can spend money constantly boring one IMHO

Hi Dullbird. Sorry to hear of your woes. I hope you got a really great deal on the car when you purchased considering you are paying for a loan car. I'm not sure who you are talking to at the dealership but I suspect you really need to escalate the issue to the highest point of contact and sit down and have a meeting with them. Quite simply, you have passed over your hard earned far too easily. I would not have paid period for the loan car (except on the first occassion). It is their responsibilty to fix it without you being out of pocket and the loan car should be free. I have been very clear with the dealer in this regard and I have never paid for car for warranty issues outside of servicing. You need to be firm and say it with a smile, get them to agree there is an issue that they should find and fix - works for me. Cheers...

As much as i feel for you, you might need to go the Winging POM treatment and ring ACA......

It has worked for a mate with a toyo once...

Is there any change in the smoke colour when it happens? Could be an injector tip problem. Only does it at an exact temperature / circumstance and sounds like like a rattly piston? If it is you should notice a change in the colour of smoke while it's happening. (probably a bit hard to notice while driving though)

Originally Posted by jskerm

Is there any change in the smoke colour when it happens? Could be an injector tip problem. Only does it at an exact temperature / circumstance and sounds like like a rattly piston? If it is you should notice a change in the colour of smoke while it's happening. (probably a bit hard to notice while driving though)

injectors were changed

ahh but were they?

I'm guessing they were as we had to take the car back as they were on order and not coming in to the following week..

another person in the uk who also had a water in the fuel problem is also having what he describes as an engine knock problem...
thought what he wrote was intersting

See below

On a more upbeat note, the dealers had a meeting with some people from land rover about why my lr keeps breaking down over the last year or so and they think they have come up with the cause. They think the pump is over pressurising and when the injectors reach critical pressure it is dumping fuel in leading to semi-hydrolock. Just waiting for parts to be delivered.

The biggest problem seems to be that parts are being replaced left right and center with no knowledge of what is happening.No one seems to know where the problem is and what parts are making a difference.It looks to me like the dealers are just chasing thier tails. Pat

I had a similar experience with my inlaws Citroen, local dealer could not put a finger on the problem so I called Citroen Customer Service, with the complete 6 month repair/repair tale etc... they appointed a liaison person, who it seemed got the dealer service people talking with other people who had solved same problem.

Probably worth a polite call to LR Customer Service people, and see what they can do to help. At least it gives LR a chance to earn some brownie points with the client!