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    This lack of real support seems to be a sign of the times, not only by LR, but by other makers. I would punish LR by not buying a D3.

    I am beginning to wonder what a true off road tourer should be? I was leaning to a Defender as my next NEW car thinking that this beast has been around for ages and therefore would be reliable. There is a lot to love about it - the space, the heavy duty nature of the undercarriage etc, but it is blighted by small component failures and software problems that make it a bad choice.

    Although I am from the Jeep camp, Chrysler's new cars also have their share of issues.

    Perhaps people looking to go bush touring should use an old Ford Falcon. Even with the 2WD handicap, you know it will go from A to B [that is, B for middle of B-ugger all] on a dry day. I have seen people do it and we once shadowed a family on an outback track for 300km in case they ran into trouble at creek crossings [which were flowing]. No assistance was needed in the end...

    At least any bush mechanic can take a look at an old Ford or Holden and identify a mechanical fault and get it back on the [off-] road quickly.

    As I have said in previous threads... LR should drop the current new price of the Deefer by about $15K for the inconvenience of its mindless and countless faults.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    not buying that for a second. the pressure involved in opening even an old school injector is well beyond most electric pumps and definately beyond any mechanical lift pump.

    what I can buy is this.

    1. they fobbed you off till they had a gap in the work schedule to get your vehicle in did some faffery, got a temp fix and called it a day.

    2. they did change the injectors but they pooched the install

    3. they didnt clean the fuel system out correctly so now you're back at square 1 and need yet another complete fuel system overhaul.


    for the injectors to be leakingunder pump pressure enough to cause hydraulicing youd pretty much have to remove the needle from the injector. I might buy that some injectors are dribbling and the residual pressure in the fuel rail is leaking into the pot when the engines off but in that case you wouldnt get a start (because the engine would be hydrauliced) and if you did you'd have a pretty much constant case of diesel knock, the injector condition would worsen, leak more and by now the engine would have done a runaway like the detroit 2 strokes do when they melt the injector nozzle.

    Well I dont know dave you tell how I'm supposed to know whether or not they change all these things....yes yes ask for the parts sometimes we pick the car up on closing not always possible! it would be pretty stupid for them not to change them as it would only cost them more money. as they can't really go and change them again, we have had the pump changed twice (or maybe we didn't)
    Have to say dave I love your posts your for ever telling the worst cases and that things weren't changed.....how about some good news i have enough negativity involved with this car and land rover at the moment
    Our Land Rover does not leak oil! it just marks its territory.......




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    I do not know what are the LT way to deal with defective parts under warranty.
    With John Deere, VW and Ford I have to send them to the manufacturer for credit and inspection by the quality control so it was impossible to give them to the customer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucaro View Post
    I do not know what are the LT way to deal with defective parts under warranty.
    With John Deere, VW and Ford I have to send them to the manufacturer for credit and inspection by the quality control so it was impossible to give them to the customer
    Yes I think they do have to send them away.....But you can still ask to see them I think
    We actually got our fuel filter back yesterday which is what they think has caused all this (we shall see) but thats only because we paid for it and asked for the other one.

    If it is the fuel filter then to cause the rattle as much as it has means they have never changed it when they say they did and they also can't of drained it when they did....they tried to blame us off roading the car AGAIN for the blocked filter which is very silly as they were supposed to have drained it 2 months before so if it was blocked then they have missed it. don't see how you can block a filter on tarmac. As we keep telling them the car hasn't offroaded
    Our Land Rover does not leak oil! it just marks its territory.......




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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucaro View Post
    I do not know what are the LT way to deal with defective parts under warranty.
    With John Deere, VW and Ford I have to send them to the manufacturer for credit and inspection by the quality control so it was impossible to give them to the customer
    Thats right,no point replacing parts if they aren't stuffed.I can't see why they don't have a test rig for checking components.Like I said,they are just taking a stab in the dark. Pat

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    Fuel filter?????. Pat

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    I do not know if the Puma have a pre-filter with a water trap if not I would fit one.It will protect the main filter and also you will be able to see if there is any water coming from the tank.
    There are models with large or small bowl so you will be able to get one that can be fitted on the engine bay.
    Cav-Delphi is a good combination and excellent product.
    Have a look HERE for them

    I doubt that the LR dealer is going to fit one for you so go to a diesel shop (to be cover) and get one installed.

    Cheers

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    those filters look great, especially with the plastic bowl. Last time I changed the filter the glass bowl shattered when tightening it up. Wasn't that tight.
    L322 tdv8 poverty pack - wow
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    how are they set up those filters....only reason I ask is talking to an independent land rover place he said if those water trap things have like a pre filter type set up he wouldn't fit it....because by putting more filters in the line you can possibly upset the flow by putting more resistance with in the lines.

    Now don't flame me that was just his opinion
    Our Land Rover does not leak oil! it just marks its territory.......




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    Yes they do have a water filter, catcher thingy? I empty mine quite often and I do get a fair bit of water out of it? If your looking for it it is just infront of the rear drivers side wheel and it has two turn buckle knobs that remove the protective shield and then get a glass jar and open the big plastic knobby on the bottom keep going untill you see deisel. It can be quite scary the first time you do it as you get loks of water and lots of crappy **** that looks organic?

    Chin up Dullbird, just keep telling yourself its still under warranty and they will fix all these problems at their cost I would suggest they are doing their best as someone that runs a workshop I can not EVER see a reason to not fix something just so it comes back again, it just doesn't make sence to do this.

    Cheers,

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