Thread: Puma Part Concern

Is the brake vacuum pump breakdown thing a Km related issue, or corrugations etc, or it just goes? Mine seems OK after 18 months - no brake issues so far and no oil leaks.

Originally Posted by spudboy

Is the brake vacuum pump breakdown thing a Km related issue, or corrugations etc, or it just goes? Mine seems OK after 18 months - no brake issues so far and no oil leaks.

David - there is no brake issue - even when/if it happens. You just loose engine oil - the actual pump still works.

It happens in dusty conditions - drive tail end Charlie behind half a dozen Land Rovers on a really fine grained dusty track for long enough and it will happen.

Carry a couple of litres of replacement engine oil and you're OK. Trick is to pick when it goes. I could smell the oil - and see it along the edge of the bonnet as little droplets when I stopped.

Originally Posted by solmanic

They told me there was a new, new part they didn't know about so I assumed they knew about the first revision but not that it had been revised a second time.

That doesn't make sense

As a follow up - my dealer has contacted me and offered this explanation...

The 2nd revised part is made by another manufacturer, hence the new part number. This 2nd revision is cheaper than the Wabco unit, which is why it is being used now.

The dealer rep went on to say that should an issue occur with my replacement down the line, even out of warranty, then it would be replaced.

If it is the case that this 2nd revised part has been issued for cost reasons only, then I am satisfied to have the part that has been fitted and I apologise for being critical of the support I received from Land Rover.

The dealer rep did say that there has been no issues with the many 1st revision replacement pumps (as fitted to my vehicle) they have fitted, so I will let this issue rest.

Originally Posted by Scallops

As a follow up - my dealer has contacted me and offered this explanation...

The 2nd revised part is made by another manufacturer, hence the new part number. This 2nd revision is cheaper than the Wabco unit, which is why it is being used now.

The dealer rep went on to say that should an issue occur with my replacement down the line, even out of warranty, then it would be replaced.

If it is the case that this 2nd revised part has been issued for cost reasons only, then I am satisfied to have the part that has been fitted and I apologise for being critical of the support I received from Land Rover.

The dealer rep did say that there has been no issues with the many 1st revision replacement pumps (as fitted to my vehicle) they have fitted, so I will let this issue rest.

I think you would have an excellent case to have this part replaced again until at least 5 years old. Keep your docco!

Originally Posted by Scallops

The part numbers are on the Pump - on mine, these look permanent. Didn't see your part numbers, but if this helps....

The first replacement pump - which I've now got - LR012183
The new pump - which Puma owners will get once LRA have used all the dud ones listed above - LR014973.

I love my Fender but Land Rover is the worst company I have ever come across.

Had another look...

There is no LRO number on the pump....so who knows?,anyway will wait & see what happens.
It is on top of the water pump?,hope we are looking at the correct part

I have always found LR excellent at warranty repairs,no problems ,always very helpful.Its the quality of the workmanship from the workshop that i have found to be the worst i have ever seen.
The vacuum pump stuff up seems to be a bit strange.

Things will only get better,but it is frustrating

I found with the Disco's i bought new,once i got a few things sorted under warranty,& then got them serviced elsewhere,the problems seemed to dissapear

Funniest thing happened the other day the wife tried to move it,but couldnt find where the ignition keys go,so it stayed where it was

Originally Posted by spudboy

Is the brake vacuum pump breakdown thing a Km related issue, or corrugations etc, or it just goes? Mine seems OK after 18 months - no brake issues so far and no oil leaks.

The issue AFAIK is the seal goes. Mine went after 11 months - we were on the blacktop and hadnt been offroad for a few weeks. I think when I washed the engine that grit and stuff worked its way in and stuffed the seal. As Scallops said though - dusty conditions would (logic says) speed the process - yet I don't think dm_td5 has had the pleasure of the failure yet and he's up in the dusty NT I'd say I'd lost 500ml to 1 ltr in the time it took to travel 40kms. So a few 5trs of oils would get you home if you not stuck in woop-woop.

Originally Posted by Rugrat

The issue AFAIK is the seal goes. Mine went after 11 months - we were on the blacktop and hadnt been offroad for a few weeks. I think when I washed the engine that grit and stuff worked its way in and stuffed the seal. As Scallops said though - dusty conditions would (logic says) speed the process -

yet I don't think dm_td5 has had the pleasure of the failure yet and he's up in the dusty NT

I'd say I'd lost 500ml to 1 ltr in the time it took to travel 40kms. So a few 5trs of oils would get you home if you not stuck in woop-woop.

We had had the car a year before visiting Derek and ours died on the return trip through a few dusty conditions Alice had a dust storm when we were there....might only be a coincidence though