Has anyone else noticed this is there County while off road?

**long stroke** · 28th June 2009, 08:13 PM

Hey all

We went for a drive on one of our local steep rutted tracks today.
We kept finding that the rear end of the county alway's seems to try slip into ruts no matter how hard you try to prevent it from doing so

It has alway's done this, the only reason we could figure is because it is so light in the rear end

When out playing on the harder tracks we only usually have the recovery gear in the back, so it's pretty much alway's empty when we are in the situation of sliding into ruts/holes etc, and they are built to carry a 1 ton payload.
Another problem could be our spring rates being all wrong, they are 2'' hd kings which as you'd expect wern't a full 2'' when we got them, and have since sagged a fair bit

So my question is have you experianced this problem also in your county/defender? if so how did you fix the problem (if you botherd) any suggestions would be great.

P.S we plan on getting new springs and longer shocks all round in the future

CHEERS TIM.

**cal415** · 28th June 2009, 08:57 PM

I dont think spring length or rate would have anything to do with it, coming from a disco 2 to a 110 ive found the rear end is alot harder to steer around ruts etc because of the extra wheel base, but really the only things that will stop you falling into ruts are good tyres suitable for the terrain and good wheel placement

**rar110** · 28th June 2009, 09:21 PM

As far as I know the only difference between a county rear and defender rear suspension is spring rates and county has borg warner load leveler.

**long stroke** · 28th June 2009, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by rar110

As far as I know the only difference between a county rear and defender rear suspension is spring rates and county has borg warner load leveler.

We removed our load leveler, i would expect both county's and defer's to be the same in the rear, i should mension ours is an isuzu, realy heavy up front

**abaddonxi** · 28th June 2009, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by long stroke

We removed our load leveler, i would expect both county's and defer's to be the same in the rear, i should mension ours is an isuzu, realy heavy up front

The springs are Defender springs, though?

iirc County springs are about 180lb and Defender 320lb or similar difference. Light springs and no load leveller makes for a very sloppy ride.

**clean32** · 28th June 2009, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by long stroke

We removed our load leveler, i would expect both county's and defer's to be the same in the rear, i should mension ours is an isuzu, realy heavy up front

put it back in, then go back to the original soft springs, is the swaybar in ?

**long stroke** · 28th June 2009, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by clean32

put it back in, then go back to the original soft springs, is the swaybar in ?

no swaybar, we plan on doing afew more trips to the cape etc, i doubt the standard springs would handle the weight would they?
Also when we get the turbo on, will try fit a set of 35's for off-road only

CHEERS TIM.

**clean32** · 28th June 2009, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by long stroke

no swaybar, we plan on doing afew more trips to the cape etc, i doubt the standard springs would handle the weight would they?
Also when we get the turbo on, will try fit a set of 35's for off-road only

CHEERS TIM.

just been though all this\ going though this.

load leveler down to with RR front springs atm

i think the sway bar is the key to all this, i doint have one because i have a whoooooping big tank hanging in the way ( both sides of the rails)
we are now traveling on 31" 245s 15" rims, loaded we have quite a nice almost floaty ride ride and a nice ride when light. but seriously put the load leveler back in.

we did ok in this soft stuff LOL and we only aired down to 30psi where everyone else was down to 18, had to have 2 bites of it to miss the ditch ( left had front) and its a bit steeper than it looks

**abaddonxi** · 28th June 2009, 10:27 PM

Check here for stuff about springs -
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/good-oil/6...t-numbers.html

County rears with load leveller 180lb, Defender HD rear 330lb.

**cal415** · 28th June 2009, 11:15 PM

i have driven mine offroad with county rears with and without the load leveler and sway bars, also HD lifted defender springs, i really dont think it makes a difference to how much the rear end wants to jump in to ruts,, one thing i do do occasionally though is unlock the CDL to stear around and out of ruts, sometimes i find it helps.

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