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    Question Your advice on the right price... (yes I can rhyme)

    Hi everyone,

    I've got a baby on the way and need something bigger than my RAV4 and Series 1 SWB. I'm going to sell the RAV4 and go soley LR. I have never looked at a Defender before and have no clue as to the right price etc.

    What do you think of this one...

    1995 LAND ROVER DEFENDER
    White 4dr Wagon Manual 4cyl 2.5L ; 291,000kms
    $10,700
    http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private-results.aspx?Ntk=CarRego&Ntt=7594239&rego=7594239& D=7594239

    Would that be a good price?

    And who of you can I ask for help to do a (visual) inspection? Again I am not familiar with Defenders and wouldn't know what to watch out for.

    (I am intersted in anything LWB (seats in back) without electronics for daily use and long distance. So if you got a II, IIA, III, Defender for sale, or know of one...?)

    Thanks,

    Kris
    hebe.land.rover@gmail.com

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    Kris,
    Fairly average money but at 300,k i would be looking to have the lump inspected for worn items and maybe overhauled, you have a bit of time for that so in effect use the time to buy parts at your leisure in preparation for that, if all seems tickety boo, you would probably want to do a renew of the injectors to keep her sweet.
    and of course do the timing belt from the get go, as you are buying an unknown quantity (not that it's necessarily a bad buy)
    On start up expect a bit of smoke but it shouldn't bellow whilst driving,
    Check the bulkhead under the heater box and behind the brake servo, also the bolts on the backside of the window to bulkhead clamp for rot bubbling here can be indicative of corrosion taking place under the paint.
    Look at the hoses for cracking, and see what the temperature is like when at running temp.
    look at the rear diff for oil moving backward toward the dif plug, as that would indicate the pinion seal is shot, all of the above i reckon is a bargaining tool to lower the price.
    Oh yeah then there are the doors and chassis to inspect.
    As a series driver you know nothing is irreplaceable so use this to your advantage.
    Just had a butchers, the rear quarter is stuffed ali is repairable to a point but in the wrong hands will stretch and become worse...filler is just ****house so chequer plate is your new friend.
    The rear crossmember looks satisfactory but the rear door looks to have been changed out ...why is the question?
    The n/s sill is buckled
    The rear n/s door looks bent and doesn't look to line up with the pillar (on the hinge)
    Have a serious go in it looks to have stains on the header tank which may mean the head gasket is stuffed or has been repaired.
    It's seen some action and i would be inclined to in at $8.5 -8.9 max you have a fair bit of work to do the engine looks a bit 'polished' maybe to distract from the header tank, the left hand hoses facing the engine need replacing
    Andy

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    Thanks,

    Wow that is a very impressive. At least it is above my (non-mechanical) head. I do have a Series 1, since 6 months now, as long as I am in Australia, but am still learning.

    The Defender guy didn't reply yet. Left voicemail and sent email. So, maybe it is already gone. Will keep my eyes open, but can see that when inspecting I need someone like you to come along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hebe View Post
    Thanks,

    Wow that is a very impressive. At least it is above my (non-mechanical) head. I do have a Series 1, since 6 months now, as long as I am in Australia, but am still learning.

    The Defender guy didn't reply yet. Left voicemail and sent email. So, maybe it is already gone. Will keep my eyes open, but can see that when inspecting I need someone like you to come along.
    Not a drama chap, i am self taught through servicing and overhauling my 130 and getting advice from some of the gods on here like blknight he knows toooo much!!!
    Where are you from originally mate as you say as long as i am in Australia (i didn't quite get that bit?)
    I reckon the best thing you can do is keep shopping around if this chap doesn't get back to you, and give any of us a hoy with the best photo's you can at the time, if you can get under the motor and look at the chassis that would give you an understanding of what to expect.
    In fact you have a series landy get a creeper board (like mechanics use) steam clean your chassis (the black iron looking thing that runs the length of the vehicle either side) and see what that looks like get to know it, spend a bit of time under there if you plan to sell it you could get some rust remedy stuff and give it a going over with that, and then paint it up with some epoxy black paint, so you get to know what the diffs look like what the transfer box looks like the gearbox and lower engine parts like the sump, if you get a land rover manual that could help you identify parts and what they do further.
    Knowledge is power and could be a saving to your wallet long term.
    I hope this idea helps in your quest don't be shy to ask anyone questions on here, and go get your hands dirty regards andy

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    Hi, Thanks for that.

    Yeah I will keep looking for a Defender I guess. I have some time, baby is due in March. However, would be great if can find one tomorrow...

    What I meant to say is that I have my Series 1 as long as I have been in Australia, which is a bit over 6 months. We are here to stay... that's the plan... and even if we go I would take the S1 with me.

    Oh, I am Dutch. But left NL when I was 21 and no plan to return. If we would go back would probably be Spain. If can find a job there.

    Yeah, I plan to spend some time on my S1. Unfortunately have to do it out of a small apartment in inner city Melbourne and the one parking spot for now. Will move to something bigger hopefully. Depends on new job location etc. But for the rest everything is going fine. Got my hands on a original mechanics book, got the rest digital (pdf), and got a lot of tips and advice from some new LR friends here. Became member of the LROCV and the Series 1 club in the UK. So, on my way to become a LR nut. Guess I already am a bit... I am having the engine rebuild by Dandenong Rebore. And after that I will get it back to its original Sand colour.

    Regards,

    Kris

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hebe View Post
    Hi, Thanks for that.

    Yeah I will keep looking for a Defender I guess. I have some time, baby is due in March. However, would be great if can find one tomorrow...

    What I meant to say is that I have my Series 1 as long as I have been in Australia, which is a bit over 6 months. We are here to stay... that's the plan... and even if we go I would take the S1 with me.

    Oh, I am Dutch. But left NL when I was 21 and no plan to return. If we would go back would probably be Spain. If can find a job there.

    Yeah, I plan to spend some time on my S1. Unfortunately have to do it out of a small apartment in inner city Melbourne and the one parking spot for now. Will move to something bigger hopefully. Depends on new job location etc. But for the rest everything is going fine. Got my hands on a original mechanics book, got the rest digital (pdf), and got a lot of tips and advice from some new LR friends here. Became member of the LROCV and the Series 1 club in the UK. So, on my way to become a LR nut. Guess I already am a bit... I am having the engine rebuild by Dandenong Rebore. And after that I will get it back to its original Sand colour.

    Regards,

    Kris
    yeah Kris sounds like a terminal case of land rover love to me give me a shout if i can help you out at all Andy

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    I wish you wouldn't have used that word. "Terminal" at 120 I hope....

    I should explain.... When I was a little kid (aprox 7) I had no specific preference for any kind of car type. Then one day while we were driving through France on vacation I see this Land Rover in front of us and ask... "Mamma, what kind of car is that?" I got the previous day my first little camera and made a snapshot. I still got it somewhere at my mom's place in the Netherlands. Very blurred but clearly a Series... I got an interest in Land Rovers right away but never knew why. Nothing special happend and we were just driving on the road and I saw it just one or two minutes I guess. The Land Rover affliction was there but didn't manifest itself until a couple of years later. I started collecting Land Rover toy cars. Not really fanatic either, but when I saw one I wanted it. A few years ago my mother tells me that my father and her went to Africa in a Land Rover. She continued to explain that while they were camping on a beach somewhere in Dahomey (now called Benin) I was conceived... Not a subject you want to hear about from your mother but still a nice fact. So, even though I didn't realize it until much later, Land Rovers have been in my life for quite a while. I was always travelling and moving countries and never bought one... until we came here.

    So, I would prefer to call it a non-lethal obsession....

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    Yes i guess i was much the same coming from the land of rover i had always loved the look of them and when i was a kid i was an army cadet and Bedford trucks and Landrovers came into my life.
    They look antique in their presentation but under the facade you know that they are so capable.
    My love for land rovers has just become a bit obsessional i had a couple in the u.k. but they were disco's very capable but to posh in my book.
    My true image of land rover has to be from series to Defender.
    It's a bugger that you are in Victoria, as i looked at buying from around Melbourne when we stayed at a freinds and just couldn't find any half good defenders.
    have a look in this state and queensland, but i don't know what the road traffic laws are in victoria and wheather it's worth it

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    Not enough pics in the profile (that loaded) to make a judgement...

    WAG... IF it was in top condition maybe its worth that much if its got the full deck of accessories.

    the profile just loaded, Urmmm IT would probabley be worth it if it hand been pranged and repaired and wasnt starting to rust on the firewall.

    ITs also been forded quite deeply at least once.

    (nice detailing job, pity he missed doing what those in the know know to look for)

    Assuming the mechainics and chassis is in top notch order all the electrics work (including the winch) with the 12 months rego signed over and regsitered into your name

    maybe $8k.
    Dave

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    Question Anyone in Adelaide can inspect a 95 Defender 300TDi for me?

    Hi Guys,

    Found another one advertised. Does anyone have time and opportunity to have a look at this one for me? It is currently in/around Adelaide.

    1995 300tdi Defender
    All new suspension bushes, shocks, rear springs, track rod, tie rods, timing belt, brake vaccum pump, axles and front bearings (wheel & swivel pin). It has the Airco removed but is sitting in shed and will go with it. It has a snorkel and non winch bull bar, roof rack. Also a set of near new cooper st's which can be purchased for an additional $900. Dual battery setup minus the second battery.

    It has a few minor dings and interior marks as all older trucks do, mechanically is great.

    290 000 kms

    Any price suggestions?

    Thanks,

    Kris

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