Trial complete: electric vehicles can work in Australia

Novelty hasn't worn off yet, It occurred to me I don't even know what it sounds like going past, so did this today.

https://youtu.be/kG9zG0GwKXs

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Originally Posted by Homestar

I had a mate buy a used Prius for peanuts - still gets very good milage and the batteries still perform moderately well even though they are well past their replacement date and it was sold to him as 'batteries needed' - the Dealer told the previous owner this, but my mates had it 3 years and thet are still going fine, although not perfect. It owes him basically nothing so when they are finally stuffed it's not going to hurt him.

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My mate has done the same but his battery pack started to fail. He bought (for next to nothing) a couple of packs from the local taxi depot and using a multimeter and simple load test determined which cells were faulty. Swapped out the cells with some good tested ones from the spare packs and all is good now.

He has a multitude of vehicles including an 80 series 4.5l petrol on 35s and dual lockers, a HJ45 trayback with stroked chev 350 on nitrous and a D4D Prado for his wife. He drives the Prius to work as his daily and gets 4l/100 and is very happy with it. From memory it has over 350K now.

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Originally Posted by Geedublya

My mate has done the same but his battery pack started to fail. He bought (for next to nothing) a couple of packs from the local taxi depot and using a multimeter and simple load test determined which cells were faulty. Swapped out the cells with some good tested ones from the spare packs and all is good now.

He has a multitude of vehicles including an 80 series 4.5l petrol on 35s and dual lockers, a HJ45 trayback with stroked chev 350 on nitrous and a D4D Prado for his wife. He drives the Prius to work as his daily and gets 4l/100 and is very happy with it. From memory it has over 350K now.

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It only takes one bad cell to pull down a whole pack , The cells don't degrade so much as they are not created equally. In service complete battery packs are discarded because of one cell . I have 45 x 200ah cells in mine and one is faulty from new, I estimate that cell has a real capacity of about 120 Ah so effectively brings the capacity of the entire pack down to 120ah I know this because my Battery Management System monitors the voltage of each cell , This one bad cell drops to 2.8V whilst the rest are on 3.1V From 2.8V there is a steep drop off to 2.6 from whence there is no recovery so I have my BMS shut the car down when the bad cell is at 2.8 .

As well as that one bad low cell , I have two cells that go high (I have BMS set to stop the charger when a cell reaches 4.5v) before the rest of the pack , so they fully charge before the others , thus again limiting the pack capacity. If you charge too high you can kill a cell, Thus a BMS is vital.

I have 4 new cells on the way from China , Rather than waste the bad cell I'll pick out the 4 worst cells and use them to make a 12v lithium pack for my caravan. Should last for ever.

Used Nissan Leaf packs are a really good way to go , only the low & high cells will be abused the rest will last another lifetime.

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Originally Posted by goingbush

It only takes one bad cell to pull down a whole pack , The cells don't degrade so much as they are not created equally. In service complete battery packs are discarded because of one cell . I have 45 x 200ah cells in mine and one is faulty from new, I estimate that cell has a real capacity of about 120 Ah so effectively brings the capacity of the entire pack down to 120ah I know this because my Battery Management System monitors the voltage of each cell , This one bad cell drops to 2.8V whilst the rest are on 3.1V From 2.8V there is a steep drop off to 2.6 from whence there is no recovery so I have my BMS shut the car down when the bad cell is at 2.8 .

As well as that one bad low cell , I have two cells that go high (I have BMS set to stop the charger when a cell reaches 4.5v) before the rest of the pack , so they fully charge before the others , thus again limiting the pack capacity. If you charge too high you can kill a cell, Thus a BMS is vital.

I have 4 new cells on the way from China , Rather than waste the bad cell I'll pick out the 4 worst cells and use them to make a 12v lithium pack for my caravan. Should last for ever.

Used Nissan Leaf packs are a really good way to go , only the low & high cells will be abused the rest will last another lifetime.

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Electric vehicles will have to work because petrol and electric vehicles will be phased out, as is already being planned in Europe.
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