ABC Four Corners on Renewable Energy.

It's not as if coal power plants never break down either. What happens then? Either the power goes out or other sources take up the slack. Renewables with storage will in time take the place of monolithic stinko power, so long as it gets financial support equal to what the dirty stuff currently enjoys.

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The 4 Corners report refuted that. The report stated prices have risen significantly to pay for the infrastructure, i.e., poles and wires, to transport what was expected to be an increase in electricity demand, where, in fact, demand has fallen.

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There was an article in the age where someone was saying much the same thing last week. The higher the power costs get, the less people are using, so the less the privatised power companies are making .... So the more they want to increase the "line maintenance fees" to upkeep profits .... Which is obviously a self defeating endless loop.......... As the more power costs, the less consumers will use.

Kinda sucks for me though ... My choice of lifestyle has ended up with me in a non-gas area, so we heat with two reverse cycle A/C's ... which means we are 100% reliant on power regardless of it's costs ( $800+ bills are entirely normal in winter). Waaaayyyy cheaper than paying $130+ a meter for wood to heat.

I sure don't know who to believe. But I do know the cost of power has increased a staggering amount over the last decade (infact everything has .... the only thing that hasn't increased is my wage).

seeya,
Shane L.

This is a great thread - I only hope something similar is being discussed in every other forum in Australia.
Governments need to be prodded by citizens to make investment in alternative energy technologies attractive. Like a guarantee that such technologies will receive the same encouragement as coal mining and burning.
I wouldn't mind tax dollars being spent to encourage investment in solar, wind, wave, geothermal, and salt energy storage. Questions asked of candidates at election time can be very revealing.
And I do like that Tesla electric car:)
Terry

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It's not as if coal power plants never break down either. What happens then? Either the power goes out or other sources take up the slack. Renewables with storage will in time take the place of monolithic stinko power, so long as it gets financial support equal to what the dirty stuff currently enjoys.

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I'm certainly not pro-coal.... I just can't see how there is any alternative regardless of the song and dances the greenies make. Isn't there even nuclear power stations being decomissioned .... to be replaced with the evil coal ones were not allowed to use in countries that currenlty use nuclear.

There will eventually be an answer to energy needs, but I sure can't see it being wind or solar.

seeya,
Shane L.

Aren't the Greenies (not the Greens) against wind power because they kill birds?

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I never knew that the wind only blew during the daytime? :confused:

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One problem is that it doesn't blow all the time.

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<snip>Kinda sucks for me though ... My choice of lifestyle has ended up with me in a non-gas area, so we heat with two reverse cycle A/C's ... which means we are 100% reliant on power regardless of it's costs ( $800+ bills are entirely normal in winter). Waaaayyyy cheaper than paying $130+ a meter for wood to heat.
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seeya,
Shane L.

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You'll be buggered if the NSW Chief Medical Officer gets her way and we see bans of the use of wood fired heaters! State's top doctor says we should consider banning wood fire heaters

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I never knew that the wind only blew during the daytime? :confused:

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One problem is that it doesn't blow all the time.

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Yes we understand that and it was explained fruther in the post, but the original post gave the impression that both solar and wind didn't work at night.

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Aren't the Greenies (not the Greens) against wind power because they kill birds?

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Lucky true Greenies don't drive cars, they would be devastated to see what gets left on the highways around here!

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You'll be buggered if the NSW Chief Medical Officer gets her way and we see bans of the use of wood fired heaters! State's top doctor says we should consider banning wood fire heaters

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Unless you cut your own, heating by RC air cons is actually way cheaper. Wood is $130+ a meter. We were burning upto 3meters a month .... which is staggeringly expensive heating.

I must admit though, I do like a nice wood fire for heating :)

seeya,
Shane L.

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Unless you cut your own, heating by RC air cons is actually way cheaper. Wood is $130+ a meter. We were burning upto 3meters a month .... which is staggeringly expensive heating.

I must admit though, I do like a nice wood fire for heating :)

seeya,
Shane L.

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There are lots of roadworks in SW Sydney at the moment and each weekend when the sites are closed you see people with trailers collecting up the felled trees. :D

I drove up to Kurrajong over the weekend and you could smell the odour of wood heaters in the air. It kinda makes you think of being warm sitting in front of the fire with a nice glass of red! :)

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Unless you cut your own, heating by RC air cons is actually way cheaper. Wood is $130+ a meter. We were burning upto 3meters a month .... which is staggeringly expensive heating.

I must admit though, I do like a nice wood fire for heating :)

seeya,
Shane L.

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Well, I burn wood, I am lucky enough to live on a place where the regrowth rate is greater than the cut up rate.
Wood is not polluting if it is burnt properly.
If you see smoke, it is not being burnt properly.
Terry