Thread: EV Landcruiser

Originally Posted by Robmacca

I'm waiting to see how they deal with the remote touring side of things for the larger touring range/distances and recharging in a reasonable time frame?

With a 3T van in tow.

Originally Posted by Robmacca

I'm waiting to see how they deal with the remote touring side of things for the larger touring range/distances and recharging in a reasonable time frame?

Well until battery tech is improved there is such a thing as a turbine Range extender, for those with 'range anxiety" , like a small capstone genset.

Originally Posted by weeds

Well i suppose I was looking into it a little more than that.....

Just think how many emissions went onto the air from

Manufacturing the car
Building the shed the car was in
Manufacturing solar panels
Manufacturing wind farms
Installers driving to and from installation.

Or are all these emission free??

What I would like to see the a rating or a number that tell the purchaser when the produce become cost/emission neutral......

You can have an emission free cars but not much points if its journey to the new owner has produced more emission than the cars is going to save over its life.

I’d be happy if they advertised low emission or return on emissions is this many kilometers.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d like our next run about for the bride to be electric.

The trouble is that you're shooting at a target with skates on, i.e. what's true today isn't going to be true on another day. Every solar panel and every wind turbine that's made and installed has a payback period at which it has returned the energy spent on construction. After that the device produces essentially zero cost emissions free energy. So every year energy production, transport, retail and manufacturing as a whole gets a bit cleaner. Do you want to analyse each and every individual car/shed/panel/turbine? Was it made on a cool, windy and sunny day or a calm summers night? Or are you happy to know the rate of progress of the system as a whole? Numbers for the latter are pretty easy to find, state by state, country by country.

Originally Posted by bee utey

The trouble is that you're shooting at a target with skates on, i.e. what's true today isn't going to be true on another day. Every solar panel and every wind turbine that's made and installed has a payback period at which it has returned the energy spent on construction. After that the device produces essentially zero cost emissions free energy. So every year energy production, transport, retail and manufacturing as a whole gets a bit cleaner. Do you want to analyse each and every individual car/shed/panel/turbine? Was it made on a cool, windy and sunny day or a calm summers night? Or are you happy to know the rate of progress of the system as a whole? Numbers for the latter are pretty easy to find, state by state, country by country.

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and sooner than later all of those solar panels etc etc will be made with zero emission electricity.

Originally Posted by goingbush

Little do people realise it takes more Electricity to refine the oil to produce petrol / diesel that would be used by Electric Vehicles to travel the same distance as the Internal Combustion powered vehicles that use that petrol / oil.

I'd really like to see the math behind that statement, sounds a bit vegan to me

This is a good concept for this NZ company, it looks like their main market is mining companies that want to go green. They have just shoved (yes I realize that it's a difficult and complex shove) a couple of batteries and an electric motor into a Tojo, because that's what the mines want.
For this it would be ideal, short range and back to base for a recharge at smoko and if you go flat a recovery is not too far away.

If (or really when) toyota give it a real shove, I'm sure that they would be doing in-wheel motors hanging off independent suspension.

Cheers Glen

Originally Posted by goingbush

Well until battery tech is improved there is such a thing as a turbine Range extender, for those with 'range anxiety" , like a small capstone genset.

Essentially a model plane turbine strapped to a generator. Not a new idea. But looks nicely executed.
I would like to have heard it running. If it has been made quiet enough to not be offensive, I doubt it would be particularly efficient.

Originally Posted by Dorian

If (or really when) toyota give it a real shove, I'm sure that they would be doing in-wheel motors hanging off independent suspension.

Cheers Glen

I can tell you have never driven an Electric car , if you had you would say Toyota will give battery tech a real shove, that where the improvements need to new made. Motor and driveline is a no brainer. Bollinger have that sorted.

In wheel motors are not going to happen on anything except bicycles.. too much unsprung weight .