Thread: EV Range Anxiety

Electric vehicles to take charge as prices drop and ranges grow - Australian Renewable Energy Agency

That article has a more realistic time frame than some of the others I have seen. One of the issues that needs to be addressed (and not special to electric as such) is that the standing cost regime for cars (depreciation, registration, insurance) makes it more difficult for most people to own a vehicle that is not capable of fulfilling all their driving tasks - for example, commuting with one person, and towing the boat with all the family at weekends. Some families use two cars, one specialised for each task, but it still means that the weekend vehicle usually spends the week (where it does most mileage) doing tasks where a smaller vehicle would be more suited.

Originally Posted by goingbush

Electric vehicles to take charge as prices drop and ranges grow - Australian Renewable Energy Agency

From the article:

Australia’s electric vehicle revolution has been slow to take off, with plug-in EVs making up just 0.2 per cent of all new cars sold. In contrast, 29 per cent of all new cars hitting the road in Norway are electric, making the oil-rich country world-leaders for EV uptake.

I reckon I know why. It's got something to do with the relative size of the countries and the intercapital distances we travel.
How long do you think it will take me to drive from Melbourne to Sydney, towing a trailer carrying a motorbike, four people on board, on a forty degree day with the A/C going flat out. In a ICE car, we can leave after breakfast and arrive before dinner.

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

From the article:


I reckon I know why. It's got something to do with the relative size of the countries and the intercapital distances we travel.
How long do you think it will take me to drive from Melbourne to Sydney, towing a trailer carrying a motorbike, four people on board, on a forty degree day with the A/C going flat out. In a ICE car, we can leave after breakfast and arrive before dinner.

Everybody knows you can tow a Trailer all the way around Australia , only stopping when you need to eat or ****, so what, thats the ways its been for 70 years , Your not going to be able to do that in 10 -20 years, maybe you should start stockpiling Diesel , its going to be a valuable commodity soon . Never mind Probably be a supply from clandestine Diesel Labs , All good !!

What Australians do & what Australians want does not make any difference, We don't have a motor industry & we import all our Fuel, Got no choice other than to accept whatever gets dumped here from overseas.

If you want to see why Norway is a high user of electric cars read this.
Subscribe to read | Financial Times

25 % VAT exemption, no tolls etc etc.
What a market distortion.

Regards Philip A
Funny, when I googled the above it let me in.
I googled electric car subsidies Norway
The article is a good summation of Norway's subsidies.

Originally Posted by goingbush

Everybody knows you can tow a Trailer all the way around Australia , only stopping when you need to eat or ****, so what, thats the ways its been for 70 years , Your not going to be able to do that in 10 -20 years, maybe you should start stockpiling Diesel , its going to be a valuable commodity soon . Never mind Probably be a supply from clandestine Diesel Labs , All good !!

What Australians do & what Australians want does not make any difference, We don't have a motor industry & we import all our Fuel, Got no choice other than to accept whatever gets dumped here from overseas.

We still have a number of refineries in operation in Australia. Two are still in operation is Vic.
Australia are still pumping oil out of the ground.
We are still heavily reliant on diesel for transport. The trucking industry is growing. The interstate train service you recommended I use is fueled by diesel as are the regional train and bus services.
These will not disappear overnight. I doubt they will disappear in the next twenty years.
Here is an example of the art of prediction:
Petrol to hit $10 a litre by 2018: CSIRO | SBS News

And and industry that would have flourished had that been true:
Biodiesel: The great crash of Australia's 'fish and chip cooking oil' renewable fuel industry - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

As long as the industry changes with the market, and not ideology, I think the petrochem industry will be around for many years to come.

OH COME ON!?!

If you consider the wasted carbon scrapping an existing vehicle every time a new elec car is put on the road it's a complete enviro disaster, not a solution... and if it's really the right way to head then why doesn't Mr "I'll save the world (but let's all head to Mars just in case too)" Tesla/Musk quit DISRUPTING and start offering elec conversion kits? Cause it's really all about promoting a conspiracy (hence leveraging Nikola Tesla's name), disrupting an existing (very efficient) auto industry and (massively) filling his own pockets along the way. EXACTLY as he did with Ebay/Paypal, and is now also doing with SpaceX.

ELECTRIC CARS WILL COME AND GO ONCE AGAIN - just like they have done before. Automation will die out after it automatically kills enough humans due to glitches and hang ups. Tech is not a real solution - especially to problems that don't really exist... it's all just some nerd and his mates trying to get ahead of the pack for a change.

Don't hold back Dave, tell us what you really think. 😁😉👍