Thread: EV Range Anxiety

Minor problem of what you would use as fuel in it - after the fuel distribution system from the oilfield to the tankers, to the refinery, to the road tankers, to the fuel pump have all fallen in a heap because they all depend on vulnerable electronics or on directly affected power distribution.

(And my county would continue to work perfectly well - until the tanks were empty)

Here you go Mick Marsh ,
Take your Trailer to Sydney & back with A/C on full blast , Recharge almost as fast as filling with petrol.

Another company that won't remain Australian for long.

Australian fast-chargers smash EV "range anxiety" on Autobahn : RenewEconomy

Originally Posted by goingbush

Here you go Mick Marsh ,
Take your Trailer to Sydney & back with A/C on full blast , Recharge almost as fast as filling with petrol.

Another company that won't remain Australian for long.

Australian fast-chargers smash EV "range anxiety" on Autobahn : RenewEconomy

Nice article.

“Our HPC solutions deliver up to 475kW of power, making them capable of charging EVs in a very short time. And our goal is to bring charging times down even further, ideally to the same time as it would take to fill your tank with petrol,”

Great! So I can drive my EV to Adelaide via Mt Gambier by the coast road, National Highway No.1.

Oh, sadly not.

In Australia – where the electric vehicle market is moving at a glacial pace – Tritium has been slightly less busy.

Although just last month, the company was tapped to supply its Veefil 50kW fast chargers for a $10 million EV fast-charging network being rolled out across New South Wales and the ACT by the NRMA.

Sadly, the news article reports on the 475kW fast EV infrastructure being installed in Europe, not Australia. Not applicable here.
The Australian installed solution is one tenth the size and within one state, NSW. I'm tipping it will probably be centred around the urban areas.

I concur, and as usual Australia is 20 years behind the rest of the world ( Make that 30 in SA and 50 in Tas)

Originally Posted by goingbush

I concur, and as usual Australia is 20 years behind the rest of the world ( Make that 30 in SA and 50 in Tas)

I can hardly wait for what is promised to happen. Electric motors are so much better than an ICE motor in performance, efficiency and construction.
However, so much more development needs to be done in the associated infrastructure and energy storage systems. Personally, I'm a fan of the fuel cell technology. NASA changed from batteries to fuel cells for their spacecraft power back in the Gemini missions.
I don't think it will happen in my lifetime. There is still plenty of oil being pumped and refined. We use so much petrochemical in our daily lives, I don't think it will go away anytime soon.

Fuel cells have already come and gone as far as domestic units go. A few years ago you could have bought one for your house that would supply all your electricity and hot water from your natual gas supply - a bargain at $35,000! Add to that they were less efficient than a gas fired power station and the maintenance was a nightmare and you have a comany (Bluegen) that went into administration in 2015 and was removed from the asx recently although you can still buy them overseas - BlueGEN Fuel Cell - SOLIDpower - with no OEM support here any more, when the stacks need replacement you'd have done your doe.

For that price now you could do a decent off grid system with batteries and solar. 😉

As for vehciles I still think hydrogen fuel cells have merrit but there seems to be a lack of motivation within the industry to go down this path for some reason, even though the tech is proven, hydrogen can be stored safely and it's theoretically 'clean' to produce although I'd like to see the solar farm that would be able to do that on a commersial scale.

Originally Posted by Homestar

As for vehciles I still think hydrogen fuel cells have merrit but there seems to be a lack of motivation within the industry to go down this path for some reason, even though the tech is proven, hydrogen can be stored safely and it's theoretically 'clean' to produce although I'd like to see the solar farm that would be able to do that on a commersial scale.

The best hydrogen producing station I saw was powered by a couple of wind turbines and the plant (electrolyser, compressor, etc.) was in a small shipping container.
I have no idea of it's capacity and it only produced when the wind was blowing and water was available.

Headlines in the media:

A new solar and wind hydrogen plant, which has been dubbed the largest in the world, has been proposed for Crystal Brook in South Australia's Mid North.

The Crystal Brook facility will produce up to 400 megawatts of solar and wind power each day, which will power the site's hydrogen 'electrolyser' to potentially produce 20,000 kilograms of hydrogen daily.

Here's an opinion piece:
Energy Voice | OPINION: Hydrogen is really happening - News for the Oil and Gas Sector

What are the energy losses going solar->hydrogen->electricity vs solar->batteries->electricity? Was thinking that hydrogen may be an easier energy medium to store large capacities and transfer between storage vessels?