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  1. 8th August 2018, 07:38 AM #1
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    CSIRO and Hydrogen fuel breakthrough

    Link to the ABC news article

    Hydrogen fuel breakthrough in Queensland could fire up massive new export market - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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  2. 8th August 2018, 07:45 AM #2
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    I played at home making hydrogen. Intention was to see if i could get my car to idle using it. Mostly just out of boredom.

    After a few explosions in the shed i decided to give up on that idea. We did have a lot of fun with that stuff though. Dangerous though big time.
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    Hydrogen fuel breakthrough in Queensland could fire up massive new export market - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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    could lead to an explosion in the industry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    could lead to an explosion in the industry
    Hindenberg comes to mind

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    could lead to an explosion in the industry
    Boom boom.
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    From the article:
    Hyundai spokesman Scott Nargar said the main advantage of hydrogen over electric cars was they could be filled up in three minutes like a normal car and had a range of up to 800 kilometres.
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    If they could scale it so that the ammonia conversion to hydrogen could happen in the car, then perhaps this is even better. Smaller amount of hydrogen requires to be stored perhaps. Nitrogen would be left over. A break through like CSIRO has done will cause electric cars to become mainstream. And battery advances aren't as important to get range.
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    I can't see what all the fuss is about these dudes beat the aussie scientists to it. n


    and this

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    I've known about this for a while.
    The crux of the matter is hydrogen is difficult to transport- the tanker trucks that move this gas are not only of limited capacity, but the H2 itself is quite volatile.
    Ammonia on the other hand, is a low pressure liquid, needs very little in the way of specialised equipment to ship it, and despite being classified as a toxic gas, is relatively safe.

    Where the magic is, is that CSIRO tech allows H2 to be catalyzed into ammonia. And ammonia into H2.
    So we can now use water and energy to make H2 via electrolysis- using 'green' energy, to make it cheaply.
    We can also store it and transport it safely.
    We could potentially have this technology in the vehicle, and have an ammonia tank, not a high pressure H2 fuel tank in the car.

    H2 can also be produced as a byproduct of the petrochemical industry, so increasing efficiencies off the back of plastic manufacture etc.

    So yeah. It's exciting. In a real nerdy kinda way.
    I just hope these Jetsons cars can sound as good as a big V8.
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