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    'What about the plug?' Australia's electric car infrastructure stalled by policy paralysis

    'What about the plug?' Australia's electric car infrastructure stalled by policy paralysis | Environment | The Guardian

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    slightly off topic,

    This is a ridiculous car , Street Legal my arse , but have a listen to what the guy has got to say , the message comes across.


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    Quote Originally Posted by goingbush View Post
    slightly off topic,

    This is a ridiculous car , Street Legal my arse , but have a listen to what the guy has got to say , the message comes across.

    Excellent! Thanks GB.

    ...silence is golden!

    I want to convert my Defender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    'What about the plug?' Australia's electric car infrastructure stalled by policy paralysis

    'What about the plug?' Australia's electric car infrastructure stalled by policy paralysis | Environment | The Guardian
    Excellent! Cheers DM.

    Why are we collectively so slow and dim witted??

    ...obviously we can carry a plug adapter. But the real point is that the world is waking up VERY FAST to EV’s. As the ‘clever country’ shouldn’t we be leading the way? It would be better for the planet and the economy.

    Im looking forward to a road trip in 2025, when I need to stop for a 30 min full charge between Alice Springs and Darwin (or wherever) and as a result the food at the roadhouse is actually edible and healthy! Or at a restaurant on the Tanami track which has sprung up due to the demand for charging EV 4x4s, that serves local kangaroo burgers. Whatever, the potential is huge because the cost of charging your car will be negligable, so paying for a delicious lunch will be more affordable and the competition to attract EV customers will improve all products and services.

    ...why are Australian roadhouses so formulaic? In Italy you can get a gourmet wood fired pizza at the servo!

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    Yes, this change to EVs and renewable power is already creating many jobs, but the big money is in leading the pack and being first to produce the infrastructure and equipment. Those who lag behind will get the scraps.
    For example, why isn't Australia manufacturing lithium batteries, instead of importing?
    We missed the boat on making solar panels, despite them being developed here, but China grabbed the manufacturing. Why aren't we going for this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    Yes, this change to EVs and renewable power is already creating many jobs, but the big money is in leading the pack and being first to produce the infrastructure and equipment. Those who lag behind will get the scraps.
    For example, why isn't Australia manufacturing lithium batteries, instead of importing?
    We missed the boat on making solar panels, despite them being developed here, but China grabbed the manufacturing. Why aren't we going for this?
    Australia struggles to be competitive in the manufacturing industry, standard of living and way too many locals wanting way too much pay......

    I’m visiting a factory in China in second week of March, it a high end factory but I’m guessing even these workers would only get paid a fraction of what a similar factory worker in Aus would get paid. We worked really hard with local supplier that manufacturers in AUS but couldn’t get close.......even with a $10k travel component the locals manufacturer is nearly double per unit.

    no chance now that its well established in other countries

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    Other countries richer than Australia maintain large manufacturing industries. They must be smarter than us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67hardtop View Post
    Thats what will happen if its made to be. Cars parked for hours while they charge up at a busy servo. Not worth the time and most servos wouldnt have the space to waste. Maybe if they make multi level carparks with lots of charge points. Then they can charge for parking too whilst their leccy buzz boxes charge up???
    Charging won't take hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weeds View Post
    Australia struggles to be competitive in the manufacturing industry, standard of living and way too many locals wanting way too much pay......
    On that reasoning Japan wouldn't have any industry at all.

    The Japanese have worked out that their future is not being low-cost - so in the last few years they've really begun to accentuate their traditional high-end craftsmanship, and you see that in everything from clothes onwards. I got given a belt last year and it's an absolute work of art. They also worked out that, like Germany, it was their equivalent of the Mittelstant that was their real economic strength and where the real expertise and intellectual property was and that it wasn't a good idea to allow that to be bought by the Chinese.
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    Meanwhile Australia allows its intellectual content to be bought up before we even get to exploit it.

    BTW many EVs can 80% recharge in about an hour. Its the last 20% that takes time, as anyone who has used a multi-stage battery charger knows.

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