Thread: Saving the World with hydrogen just took a step closer

I knew they had put hydrogen as a UPS. The Size of it is bigger than I knew.

Telstra next perhaps?

Could hydrogen kill off diesel? - DCD

Post or shut up? Asking perhaps answers the question I am an admitted green carbon free nuclear type. Love the possibility of clean fusion or very clean older style Nuclear reactors. Hydrogen seem to fit with efficient and clean solar, wind or carbon free via U-235 or so,

"Wood Mackenzie also declared the 2020s the decade of hydrogen,"

While we might not like some aspects of the Communist Party of China (C.C.P.) China is a interesting and important development worth watching I think.

http://epaper.chinadaily.com.cn/a/20...2343530d1.html Not suggesting anyone is silly enough to invest in some of the companies I like. Some just might be worth observing possibly.

Investing can be dangerous without you getting appropriate advice. My waffle should be taken with a HUGE grain of salt. Sharing as I think it raises several interesting aspects I feel Australia is possibly holding world leaded technology.

Coal is a issue mined or still in the ground. This is a major Hazer opportunity. A significant amount of methane being billions of tonnes is venting from current and old coal mines
Coal Mine Methane Sources | Coalbed Methane Outreach Program (CMOP) | US EPA

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U.S. coal mines emitted nearly four billion cubic meters or 61 million metric tons of carbon dioxide equivalent (MMTC02E) in 2015

We could clearly add a lot of very large Hazer plants to both help remove the Air voiding of this and make money via Hydrogen and Graphite at the same time. The costs and need to control methane immersion is a Hazer patented strength and advantages.

Thanks for bring up the topic. 20% of global green house gas emissions are methane. Profiting from fixing this for the world will be a pleasure for us share holders

The money and world wide effort in this sector will be knocking on the door in Hazer HQ. The Global Methane initiative shows a lot of change is happening. A map they have shows the enormous opportunity for Hazer I feel. I am happy to bet the map shows only a small proportion of the opportunity
Have a great day all

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Hydrogen fuel and fertiliser from potato farm waste is on the boil in a bid to lower heavy costs to farmers

Hydrogen fuel and fertiliser from potato farm waste is on the boil in a bid to lower heavy costs to farmers - ABC News


Trials to turn waste from potato farms into fertiliser and energy are underway in regional Victoria in a bid to be environmentally friendly and lower the costs for farmers.

The research and development project based in Mollongghip, between Ballarat and Daylesford, aims to convert agricultural waste, known as biomass, into hydrogen.

BOC/Linde QLD last month a reasonably small 220 kW hydrogen in Brisbane. "Brisbane, 23 August 2019: Leading gas and engineering company BOC, a subsidiary of Linde plc, today announced the commencement of a Queensland-first renewable hydrogen project at its production facility in Bulwer Island, Brisbane.

The $3.1 million end-to-end renewable hydrogen supply project received $950,000 funding from the Australian Renewable Energy Agency (ARENA) and is supported by the Queensland Government."

24MW is a lot bigger just not here yet.

"Guildford, UK, January 13, 2021 - Linde (NYSE: LIN; FWB: LIN) today announced it will build, own and operate the world's largest PEM (Proton Exchange Membrane) electrolyzer plant at the Leuna Chemical Complex in Germany.

The new 24-megawatt electrolyzer will produce green hydrogen to supply Linde's industrial customers through the company's existing pipeline network. In addition, Linde will distribute liquefied green hydrogen to refueling stations and other industrial customers in the region. The total green hydrogen being produced can fuel approximately six hundred fuel cell buses, driving 40 million kilometers and saving up to 40,000 tons of carbon dioxide tailpipe emissions per year.

The electrolyzer will be built by ITM Linde Electrolysis GmbH, a joint venture between Linde and ITM Power, using high-efficiency PEM technology. The plant is due to start production in the second half of 2022.

"Clean hydrogen is a cornerstone of the German and EU strategies to address the challenge of climate change. It is part of the solution to help reduce carbon dioxide emissions across many industries, including chemicals and refining," said Jens Waldeck, President Region Europe West, Linde. "This project shows that electrolyzer capacity continues to scale up and it is a stepping stone towards even larger plants.""

The size growing massively quickly yet it is not even scratching Linde's current massive Steam reforming hydrogen production or significantly expanding hydrogen needs. The cost are not specified unfortunately.

A very interesting chat I listened to again yesterday discussed the price decline in Solar. From ridiculously high in the 1980s to cheaper than coal per MWh now. Hydrogen fuel cells are following the significant price reduction as they scale up as is the cost of production for Hydrogen itself. The news suggested the significant cost reductions is happening much faster with Hydrogen than it did with Solar and Wind power.

The train refueling in UK to start this year as well. https://www.linde.com/news-media/press-releases/2020/linde-to-build-and-operate-world-s-first-hydrog...

Sharing not pumping a stock I hold!!! THIS IS NOT INVESTMENT ADVICE- just a chat!!!! everyone financial situation/risk profile and common sense is important D.Y.O.R.

Why consider this?

Hazer, BASF, Linde/BOC, Monolith and others all have mention methane pyrolysis CO₂-neutral or negative and some chatter about credits reported as “US$45 billion 2019” and growing (See overview of Carbon Pricing). Hazer “there's an enormous benefit in operating on biogas because we get a large carbon abatement credit and we actually become a carbon-negative process working on renewable biogas.” Mr Geoff Ward Hazer in a interview with Alan Kohler 24 Oct 2019 Makes the topic a investor consideration of interest to myself.

Types of Carbon Credits

There is two types of credits: Voluntary emissions reduction (VER): A carbon offset that is exchanged in the over-the-counter or voluntary market for credits. Certified emissions reduction (CER) Emission units (or cred its) created through a regulatory framework with the purpose of offsetting a project's emissions. “CER” is considered equivalent to one metric ton of CO₂ emissions. These allowances can be sold privately or in the international market at the prevailing market price. These trade and settle internationally and hence allow allowances to be transferred between countries. Each international transfer is validated by the UNFCCC. Each transfer of ownership within the European Union is additionally validated by the European Commission.”

Overview of Carbon Pricing

World Bank- State and Trends of Carbon Pricing 2020
“There are now 61 carbon pricing initiatives in place or scheduled for implementation, consisting of 31 ETSs and 30 carbon taxes (Figure ES.1), covering 12 gigatons of carbon dioxide equivalent (GtCO2e) or about 22 percent of global GHG emissions (Figure ES.2). This is an increase compared to 2019, in which 20 percent of global GHG emissions were covered by ETSs and carbon taxes that were implemented or scheduled for implementation.”

“A wide range of public and private sector actors are pushing forward with decarbonization strategies through international cooperation”
“In 2019, about 1,600 companies disclosed that they currently use internal carbon pricing or that they anticipate doing so within two years.9 With an increasing number of companies committing to net zero targets and growing investor pressure, the use of internal carbon pricing to reduce supply chain emissions is likely to grow in the future”
““Imposing a price on carbon sends a financial signal to investors that low-carbon investments are valuable today and will be even more valuable in the future.” Philippe Le Houérou, Chief Executive Officer of International Finance Corporation”
“Carbon prices range from less than US$1/tCO2e to US $119/t CO2e, with almost half of the covered emissions priced at less than US$10/tCO2e”
“61 implemented or scheduled, of which 31 are ETSs and 30 are carbon taxes”

Carbon Credits and Australia context today

“Market Advisory Group managing director Raphael Wood said investment in Australian carbon credits was doubling every year, albeit off a low base.
“We are seeing substantial investment as these companies know they will have future liabilities arising under any carbon neutral commitments,” Carbon Market Institute chief executive John Connor said.
He noted private equity firm KKR last year spent about $100 million buying into Greencollar, the largest Australian generator of carbon credits, while Woodside and Shell had made similar moves.
“They are recognising what their future climate liabilities will be and also the commitments many companies have made for carbon neutrality," Mr Connor said.”

Investors place Australian bets on compulsory emissions reductions

Why do companies in countries without carbon pricing buy carbon credits

KKR, Woodside and Shell are not spending 100million for no reason.
I assume and companies/investors’ expectations or current real imposition taxes and tariffs in trade in many jurisdictions if they do not deal with Emissions and available Offsets. Scope 3 may be a major contributing factor to this?

Scope 3 explained US EPA

“Scope 3 emissions are the result of activities from assets not owned or controlled by the reporting organization, but that the organization indirectly impacts in its value chain. Scope 3 emissions include all sources not within an organization’s scope 1 and 2 boundary. The scope 3 emissions for one organization are the scope 1 and 2 emissions of another organization. Scope 3 emissions, also referred to as value chain emissions, often represent the majority of an organization’s total GHG emissions.” “GHG Corporate Protocol, all organizations should quantify scope 1 and 2 emissions when reporting and disclosing GHG emissions, while scope 3 emissions quantification is not required. However, more organizations are reaching into their value chain to understand the full GHG impact of their operations. In addition, because scope 3 emission sources may represent the majority of an organizatio

More hydrogen here in OZ- Again not investment advice. Noting a rocket plus after I shared my carbon credit waffle. ( I think it was a reasonable view but may be a smarty pants smug mug)

RLE is merging with SXA ( I hold one of them) the change of name to Pure Hydrogen may be a little hype inducing I feel. they are both gas sector and minnows or what is called often call"penny deadfulls" which many people correctly avoid like the plague . Never heard of Liberty Hydrogen.
The H band wagon is growing so fast some will fail spectacularly like Nikola seems to have. A fool and our money are......

REAL ENERGY CORPORATION LIMITED (ASX:RLE) - Ann: Pure Hydrogen Signs JV with Liberty Hydrogen, page-1 - HotCopper | ASX Share Prices, Stock Market & Share Trading Forum

came across this . worth a read. LAVO, UNSW develop world'''s first domestic hydrogen battery
also a piece by twiggy forrest on green hydro. Andrew Forrest on how green hydrogen offers a chance to fix our climate and our economy - ABC News

food for thought.

gofer :-)