Saving the World with hydrogen just took a step closer

After the mess the pipeline from Alaska to the US via Canada made. It was interesting to note the planning consideration to move millions of miles of gas pipeline to allow them to be used to transport and store hydrogen in the US.

The same is need almost everywhere as leaky old natural gas lines releasing Methane is already know to be a real issue. Hydrogen proofing pipes make a lot of sense. At the very least they would not leak methane then[biggrin]

Must New heating and boilers being sold in the EU and UK is going to be able to run on either methane or hydrogen or blends of the two I heard.

Pipeline Owners Look to Hydrogen as Natural Gas Comes Under Attack - FuelCellsWorks

Hyosung Chairman Hyun-Joon Cho has begun to activate the hydrogen economy by preparing to construct the world’s largest liquid hydrogen factory following a large-scale investment in carbon fiber last year.Hyosung joined hands with the Linde Group, a global chemical company specializing in industrial gas, to establish a value chain encompassing the production and transportation of liquid hydrogen and installation and operation of charging stations by investing KRW 300 billion in all by 2022. For this purpose, an MOU was signed by Hyosung Chairman Hyun-Joon Cho and Linde Korea Chairman Baek-Seok Seong on April 28 at the head office of Hyosung in Mapo, Seoul.

As a start, the two companies will build a liquid hydrogen factory on a 30,000㎡ (about 10,000 pyeong)-plus site in the premises of the Ulsan Yongyeon factory of the Hyosung Group by investing KRW 150 billion. The factory will be the largest in the world as a single plant with annual production capacity of 13,000 tons (enough to fuel 100,000 passenger cars). A joint venture will be established by the end of this year to begin construction of the factory during the first quarter of the following year and complete the factory in 2022.

Made our Victorian Port Anthony project targeting initial production of 20 tonnes per day seem a little small[biggrin] thats about 7300 tonnes per year.

"Sydney— Real Energy Corporation Limited’s (ASX: RLE) 100%-owned hydrogen division Pure Hydrogen Corporation Pty Ltd is pleased to announce that its Joint Venture (JV) company with Liberty Hydrogen, Pure Hydrogen International Inc., has signed a term sheet with private Australian hydrogen project development company Port Anthony Renewables Limited to build and develop a large-scale hydrogen production facility at Port Anthony, Victoria."

Still need to find out who Liberty Hydrogen are. Never heard of them until yesterday

A consortium of 30 European energy companies and financial institutions have launched the HyDeal Ambition project, which aims at delivering 100% green hydrogen across Europe at a price of just €1.5/kg before 2030 by building 95GW worth of solar capacity and 67GW worth of hydrogen electrolysis capacity.
HyDeal Ambition is the result of 2 years of research and confidential preparation by 30 European energy players, and the targeted price of €1.5/kg ($AU2.3/kg) includes the production of, transmission, and storage of green hydrogen.
One of the primary purposes of HyDeal Ambition is to deliver green hydrogen to customers at cost-parity with fossil fuel competitors, helping to make the transition to a carbon-neutral economy a much easier prospect.






European consortium to deliver 95GW of solar and 67GW of hydrogen by 2030 | RenewEconomy

How much hydrogen is a question I love to consider. A region in Japan just released a study on how much they will use by 2025 and 2030

40,000 ty 2025 and 110,000 ty by 2030

I did have to google TY[biggrin] before going back and reading more closely. I think it is Tonnes per year. I assume a tonne of the lightest element is an awful lot of it[thumbsupbig]

"As of 2019, roughly 70 million tons of hydrogen are produced annually worldwide for various uses, such as oil refining, and in the production of ammonia (through the Haber process) and methanol (through reduction of carbon monoxide), and also as a fuel in transportation. The hydrogen generation market is expected to be valued at US$115.25 billion in 201" wiki so I hope that's ok

Chubu Japan seem to be planning to use almost 60% of the entire worlds 2019 hydrogen production. that's a lot of gas! The consortium is Toyota, Mitsubishi Heavy industries and other very heavy hitters.

Japan: Consortium Releases Update Activities Report of Hydrogen Utilization Study Group in Chubu - FuelCellsWorks

Japan-Australia venture starts producing hydrogen from dirty coal

Japan-Australia venture starts producing hydrogen from dirty coal (bangkokpost.com)

LOY YANG, Australia: A Japanese-Australian venture has begun producing hydrogen from brown coal in a A$500 million (US$390 million) pilot project that aims to show liquefied hydrogen can be produced commercially and exported safely overseas.

The plan is to create the first international supply chain for liquefied hydrogen and the next big step will be to ship a cargo on the world's first liquefied hydrogen carrier.

Just got two or three interesting items on Hydrogen. I want a replacement no bloody exhaust fumes H replacement drive for offshore Fishing so yanmar moves are more than interesting. A little bigger than my little boats needs still

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I have put my money where my mouth is with a few investments lately. My little bits in WA, US and Canadian companies was diversified to a EFT which is a big basket of companies.

Canberra has the first public H refueling station, the 20 Korean cars about to be delivered are also about to be made available to us plebs if you have very deep products for 2nd gen technology. A race is starting between some car companies in the secotor "

20 Hyundai Nexo SUVs sat in Sydney storage for months and the installation of the refuelling infrastructure stalled during the COVID pandemic, the station is finally up and running, setting a zero-emissions transport agenda that Victoria is racing to match next week when Toyota finally opens its refuelling station in Altona

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At an even bigger scale by the end of the year is this one soon too be multiples.

110-m by 11.45-m inland container vessel

Maas

will be 100% powered by hydrogen at the end of 2021. It will be retrofitted at the Holland Shipyards Group’s yard in Hardinxveld throughout Q3 2021. When service resumes, 

Maas

 will continue shipping container cargo between Rotterdam and Antwerp.

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Proof of cheap emission free or even carbon negative Hydrogen production is required. Happily that is in very advanced position in WA in particular. Proof of costs (R.O.I.) is required to make this change a smile and profitable event rather than painful.

I think I have mentioned the 1900-1910 disruptive technological change Haber- Bosch. Still stunned by its impacts from war to sustaining and enabling the 6 times plus world population growth.

The changes coming seem to be possibly as revolutionary as that event to me. Hope the war enabling side is not the same and do not want to see another 6x population growth :)

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We have had them for about a year but they were made of cardboard - these are not public at this stage - for use by Govt vehicles only at the moment.

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We have had them for about a year but they were made of cardboard - these are not public at this stage - for use by Govt vehicles only at the moment.

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I think they just announced public sales "Australia's first hydrogen fuel cell vehicle is available to both private and business customers."

Not for me, need a tow tug still.

Yes you are correct - apparently will be open to the public.

They are still pushing the myth that ACT electricity is only produced from renewable resources and the hydrogen will be produced from this power.

"He said clean hydrogen, produced through electrolysis with 100 per cent renewably sourced electricity, and electric vehicles, were part of an emissions-free transport system, and the ACT would embrace both."

Porkies there - when it is dark and no wind, the ACT gets its power from the grid so from coal burning sources.

I like hydrogen yet one way seem to have a rather scary possible OUCH. "BP plans to build Britain's largest hydrogen plant by 2030

The Teesside plant in northern England will have capacity of up to 1 gigawatt (GW) of so-called blue hydrogen, about a fifth of Britain's target of 5 GW of hydrogen capacity by the end of the decade."

Chatter on this and local Vic carbon capture and storage was the topic I had not considered before. Massive C02 storage in ...... has a possible issue +. The BP plans has apparently C02 sequestration in several proposals is pumping it deep underground or under the ocean in old oil wells as one example. The Alarm Bell is a massive failure of a C02 sequestration in the Oceans near the UK. Two types of leaks- "gradual or in a catastrophic leakage" The latter may kill a lot of people.

Oddly this is already a possible issue "Since 1996, the company has separated CO2 gas from the desired hydrocarbons and reinjected up to 1 million tonnes of CO2 a year into the Utsira formation, a layer of porous sandstone more than 800 metres below the sea floor (see ‘Gas tank’). The giantformation, which covers an area of 24,000 square kilometres, has the potential to hold 600 billion tonnes of disposed CO2. According to Statoil’s website, CO2 in the Utsira is safely contained under “gas-tight cap rock and cannot seep into the atmosphere”.

It get more interesting to alarming "Yet because offshore disposal happens far from population centres, it has some advantages over onshore storage. Germany, Spain and Norway are each running onshore pilot experiments in which they have injected tens of thousands of tonnes of CO2 into reservoirs underground, but some people have expressed concern about large-scale disposal on land. “I think it’s easier to work offshore in the sense that the public perception is not ready for CO2 storage in their backyards,” says hydrogeologist Pascal Audigane of the French Geological Survey in Orléans, who manages a €5-million carbon-storage project in an underground lab in Switzerland."

A massive amount of c02 in a "catastrophic leakage" due to ???? could smoother a large area with little possibly of escape in a scenario I was listening to while riding today. Excuse me as a MAMIL event occurred again [biggrin]

The studies on the topic are not really considering the massive scale being considered by BP and even our Victorian coal proposals the Government seems to want regardless of better options[bighmmm]