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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Interesting on your part.

    All the owners of 200s here reckon 16-17l/100km is a great return at 80-85km/h and 3500kg on the bum.

    One owner tows at posted speeds and said that 22l/100km (110km/h) is good.
    Don’t tow so don’t really know,didn’t think we were talking about towing,but maybe we were,my bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Interesting on your part.

    All the owners of 200s here reckon 16-17l/100km is a great return at 80-85km/h and 3500kg on the bum.

    One owner tows at posted speeds and said that 22l/100km (110km/h) is good.
    My 101 towing the caravan does that but I’m only going 80… EV general discussionEV general discussion
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    Was speaking with someone with a Tesla X on the weekend.
    The long range 600+km model.

    They purchased it for that exact reason. Threw the kids in the back and headed East.

    Hevac on, kids running iPads from the vehicle etc.
    350 odd kilometres later they are sitting waiting for a tow truck - ran out of juice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Was speaking with someone with a Tesla X on the weekend.
    The long range 600+km model.

    They purchased it for that exact reason. Threw the kids in the back and headed East.

    Hevac on, kids running iPads from the vehicle etc.
    350 odd kilometres later they are sitting waiting for a tow truck - ran out of juice!
    A mate has one of those,its a 3 i think,he doesnt leave town,so all good.
    Has a charging point at home.

    Anyway,if the driver takes his/her hands off the wheel,it says to please put them back on the wheel.
    After the third message,if the hands are not back on the steering wheel,it pulls over and parks itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Was speaking with someone with a Tesla X on the weekend.
    The long range 600+km model.

    They purchased it for that exact reason. Threw the kids in the back and headed East.

    Hevac on, kids running iPads from the vehicle etc.
    350 odd kilometres later they are sitting waiting for a tow truck - ran out of juice!
    I wonder if they run out of Petrol often Tombie? The amount of warnings EVs give you re range left is a bit over the top. I often let mine down to the last 30km but only if the high speed trip is under 200km from a full starting charge. It gives me the ****s from 60km range remaining. Our normal range Tesla which I do not drive much gets over 350km. Might be a bit more to that yarn then the ipads I think. Either way glad I did not fork out for a xrated tesla

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyDiver View Post
    I wonder if they run out of Petrol often Tombie? The amount of warnings EVs give you re range left is a bit over the top. I often let mine down to the last 30km but only if the high speed trip is under 200km from a full starting charge. It gives me the ****s from 60km range remaining. Our normal range Tesla which I do not drive much gets over 350km. Might be a bit more to that yarn then the ipads I think. Either way glad I did not fork out for a xrated tesla
    Context was hot day, everything running.
    They got to a point where there were no chargers and had to continue while the range dropped drastically.

    They certainly wouldn’t run out of petrol - they own OTR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    They certainly wouldn’t run out of petrol - they own OTR
    That’s even more hilarious knowing that! EV general discussionEV general discussionEV general discussion

    Are they looking at putting any chargers in at any of the outlets?
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    0.0012% chance of ev fire

    I added another 500km to the clock. cost was $24 total. Disco if behaved is 10l per 100km so excluding maintenance at current $2.20ish per litre is $110++ not spent by this black duck.


    Was having a chat re fires in lithuim over a nice family over a fire at cool Birthday party. A few burnt trucks, tractors and cars in the room was found over the last 50 years not recently happily. It was 1.3 degrees at midnight. I mean cool in several ways


    An engineer in the mix sent me a story on EV fire risk.

    Some reassuring parts if you have a battery perhaps. Kicking the window out to get out of the tesla on fire is not so cool

    Electric mobility is hot, but its lithium-ion batteries are burning
    "While EV battery fires are concerning, they are far exceeded by that of ICE (internal combustion engine) vehicles.Researchers at the EV Safe project in Australia looked at global EV battery fires from 2010-2020. They found a 0.0012% chance of a passenger electric vehicle battery catching fire."

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyDiver View Post
    I added another 500km to the clock. cost was $24 total. Disco if behaved is 10l per 100km so excluding maintenance at current $2.20ish per litre is $110++ not spent by this black duck.


    Was having a chat re fires in lithuim over a nice family over a fire at cool Birthday party. A few burnt trucks, tractors and cars in the room was found over the last 50 years not recently happily. It was 1.3 degrees at midnight. I mean cool in several ways


    An engineer in the mix sent me a story on EV fire risk.

    Some reassuring parts if you have a battery perhaps. Kicking the window out to get out of the tesla on fire is not so cool

    Electric mobility is hot, but its lithium-ion batteries are burning
    "While EV battery fires are concerning, they are far exceeded by that of ICE (internal combustion engine) vehicles.Researchers at the EV Safe project in Australia looked at global EV battery fires from 2010-2020. They found a 0.0012% chance of a passenger electric vehicle battery catching fire."
    All well and good, but we need the other stats that make that number relevant.

    - Based on that stat, what % of the total of roadgoing cars are EV's globally?
    - What is the figure for global ICE fires?
    - Based on the percentages of ICE v EV's - which one is higher?

    Those figures may be in the doc sorry, but I haven't looked through all of it.

    Not saying they aren't lower overall, or that EV's fire hysteria isn't a beat up at times but that stat on its own is pretty meaningless IMO.
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    Ok, from a quick google, I could only find stats on US car fires. Based on 2020 data for cars on the road and car fires in the USA in 2020 they account for 0.062% - but that includes EV's and ICE vehicles.

    EV's in the US totaled 308,000 in 2020 and I couldn't find specific data on EV fires in 2020, but based on what I can see, yes, EV's are far less of a fire risk that ICE vehicles.

    Sorry for the previous post, I just like to have all the relevant data when a topic is discussed - I wasn't having a go at you personally.

    Edit - just found this - basically all the data I wanted in one article. Study: Electric Vehicles Involved in Fewest Car Fires - Kelley Blue Book

    Interestingly it's the Hybrids that are the most likely to go up in smoke.
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