Thread: EV general discussion

This is a good summary of EV vs Hybrid vs ICE.
The Contradictions of Battery Operated Vehicles | Graham Conway | TEDxSanAntonio - YouTube
Regards PhilipA

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

Not bashing Prius. I just see servicing a ICE engine as a Pain. Disco is due for time not distance again - Ouch

Noticed a grumpy non Tesla driver apparently upset with a Tesla using charge fox charger in Goulburn NSW. There are Tesla only chargers there. The Tesla driver is correct that Charge fox 350kWph charger is faster and cheaper than the Tesla only chargers others cannot use.

Odd mostly as not all of the charge points were occupied and note none of the Tesla only ones would be used as the are slower and cost more- Thanks Mr Musk Noting I would be happy to use Tesla if they allowed me to pay

Tesla Goulburn is 120kWph 1/3 the Charge fox speed. Colac Vic at the moment has 250kWh Tesla and none for this black duck really That makes me visit RACV Torquay or via Ballarat racv chargers. The pain of having a new generation short asses range MG of course. Zip in the fast lane in Port Fairy or Warrnambool yet if excluding Tesla only site.

Note many new options are being built happily.

Yes but a necessary one for the foreseeable future. The Person buying SWMBO new car would have bought an EV but anything remotely suitable for the job was north of $80K which is around twice as much as the budget. He did have to cough up an extra $10K to get the Hybrid but that’s the best they could do.

Until battery prices come down Ev’s will continue to be a luxury purchase for those that can afford it.

The battery packs we just bought at work cost just north of $100K each - they were in the country and built last year. Any new orders are just shy of $150K each now as battery prices have skyrocketed in recent months and there’s a global shortage of lithium currently. This should change quite dramatically in around 18 months to 2 years as the big lithium mines here in Aus are just about ready to start producing - they’ve been a long time getting to the actual lithium due to its depth, but hopefully they’ll be flooding the market in cheap lithium in a year or so and we’ll start to see battery prices come down to affordable levels at some point.

By the Hydrogen will be starting to kick off a bit more as well so hopefully we’ll see both these techs in EV’s at everyday prices in the future.

Originally Posted by Homestar

Until battery prices come down Ev’s will continue to be a luxury purchase for those that can afford it.

Maybe they wont.

EVs and Gas Cars Won'''t Cost the Same Any Time Soon, Mercedes Says

This is interesting as well.

French car industry calls ban on combustion engine cars ‘industrial destruction’ – EURACTIV.com

Cummins Inc. Debuts 15-Liter Hydrogen Engine at ACT Expo | Cummins Inc.

I laughed and laughed during and after I watched this viseo on the actual state of EV sales in China.
For all of you who still believe China is a World Leader in EVs , watch this and weep.

(1) Brand new cars sit unclaimed on barren hills for years/massive number of scrapped vehicles in China - YouTube

Regards PhilipA

Another chuckle, or,,, 'We never thought of that !'

Google this up on youtube, Renewable Energy is The Scam We All Fell For . the author is 'Thoughty2'

Big surprise from around 9 minutes onward...

Enjoy

And don't forget the inconvenient Truth that China and India are building MORE coal fired plants.
We'll save the planet by shutting down the last of ours, and replace them with.... ?

China car builder with battery swapping cars and swap stations

Chinese smart-battery swap stations can change EV batteries automatically - YouTube

Don.