Thread: EV general discussion

Originally Posted by scarry

A bit like putting a Range Rover badge on an Evoke.

…or a Land Rover badge on a Tata.

Originally Posted by Homestar

I hear ya and won't be lining up but I also remember similar comments from my Parents about Japanese Vehicles and then South Korean vehicles when they first hit the market here and to be fair Hyundai's early attempts were horrific but they've worked their way up to earn the place they have IMO. Early Datsuns rusted away in front of your eyes as well. I think decent quality Chinese cars are coming - I'm not saying the MG4 is one but it does seem like they are trying to step it up a bit.

I still want to see what happens in 10 years or so to the second hand EV market and how batteries are holding up - I wouldn't even contemplate one before I know they can do 10 to 15 years without issues - and I am very skeptical this will happen, but like a lot of things I keep an open mind on most things.

Have to chuckle about that. A cheap Hyundai a friend brought for several thousand less than other 2nd hand cars in 1994 was in her words the best decision she ever made. Multiple people suggested she should spend a lot more for the other more known car brands at the time

It's still running now Buy what you want and need. I would not buy another Russian ute despite the fun I had in mine fishing and camping . my Chinese MG was a huge compromise - Short range, first of kind, poor high speed range........

That said It has saved me a lot over 40,000 km + traveled. I have record of the cost of my Disco. Not sharing as we all know large 4wds cost more to service and run!

"MG’s parent company is SAIC Motor (Shanghai Automobile Industry Corporation). SAIC Motor is the 7 th largest car manufacturer in the world and was the first automobile group in China with annual sales exceeding 7 million units"

I am waiting for my Disco replacement. Not biased to where it comes from other than no thank for a Russian again

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

Have to chuckle about that. A cheap Hyundai a friend brought for several thousand less than other 2nd hand cars in 1994 was in her words the best decision she ever made. Multiple people suggested she should spend a lot more for the other more known car brands at the time

The office Lady at work had one of those.She bought it off her Mum, who bought it new around mid '90's as well.Some low life stole it about six months ago,it was never found.Had around 350,000Km on it.

Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

I'll confess I haven't really had much to do with the early Teslas. I have heard many reports of poor build quality.

However mine is so far well built. Like a month and a half into ownership and I've got not a cracker to complain about. Let's hope it keeps up.

That has buggered that for now.

Originally Posted by spudfan

From the MG Irish website

"Built to the highest standards in our state-of-the-art factories, we are so confident of the quality and reliability of MG4 EV that we give it a 7 year manufacturer's warranty"

Just like Haval/GWM, they'll just keep replacing parts and whole engines til the warranty runs out - if it doesn't rust into the ground by then.

Originally Posted by loanrangie

Just like Haval/GWM, they'll just keep replacing parts and whole engines til the warranty runs out - if it doesn't rust into the ground by then.

Only in ICE engines

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

Only in ICE engines

The simplicity of EV’s is a big reliability improvement. Will be interesting to see if in-wheel motors ever become common to eliminate almost all rotating parts.

In wheel electric motors have been tried periodically since at least Edwardian times. And have never lasted very long in production.

Apart from the frequently touted drawback of unsprung weight, competition for space with brakes, and the fact that they are working in a pretty unfriendly environment, a major drawback is that they are sacrificing one of the major advantages of electric motors - they can be operated at very high rpm without issues, enabling them to be a lot smaller, cheaper, and lighter than they would be if restricted to ICE speeds.