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    Robert making the case for PHEV utes.

    https://youtu.be/7F3L2RwzQe0?si=sitezP8gsGnsfnls
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot View Post
    We've had this discussion. Of all the people who buy twincab utes, the majority of them drive around the city empty and are used for the same duties we've always used the family laser for. For the vast majority of of users, for the vast majority of the time, a small hatch would be the best tool for the job, but if your ego is too big for that a PHEV is not a bad option.

    Yes there are some that hook a trailer on and make them work but I bet the actual percentage who do that often are probably much smaller than you think.

    There are multiple videos now on YT of tow tests of the "wave" of phev utes. They seem to go ok. Unless you are towing something really big they work fine and offer you a nice big battery to run your stuff off when stopped.

    Australians buy a lot of dual cab utes. our best selling "cars" are dual cabs.

    VFACTs June 2025: Dual-cab utes dominate sales in Australia
    Even if 99% of the use is this ... Its still an utterly useless piece of crap, as the reason it was generally purchased is to do something like tow the boat ... or the caravan 1/2 dozen times a year. If it can't do this, it is useless junk.

    Most of these people the lunies refer to as "don't need something".... actually do need, just not often. They will never by the useless ute above, even if they only tow one time per year, it ​still can't do that. ie: its useless at its designed task.

    I have a 4wd that can tow 4 tons. I very rarely tow a loaded car trailer or caravan with it. This stupidity above is not capable of even doing what my 35+ year old 4wd can do. What progress

    Just liek an electric throw-away. the use case for this stupidity is very small. If you didn't need the tow capacity, you probably wouldn't have purchased it in hte first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot View Post
    Robert making the case for PHEV utes.

    https://youtu.be/7F3L2RwzQe0?si=sitezP8gsGnsfnls
    It sounds great. Let me know how yours work out when you buy it. (wait ... what do you mean you wouldn't buy it as the one reason you would purchase such a thing .... it can't do ).
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    '92 Range Rover 3.8V8 ... 5spd manual
    '85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I :burnrubber:
    '63 ID19 x 2 :wheelchair:
    '72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas
    Modern Junk:
    '07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual :zzz:
    '11 Poogoe RCZ HDI 6spd manual

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