EV general discussion

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Originally Posted by Tins

Oh, right, Ranger drivers are public enemy number one, are they? Meanwhile, the smug Tesla owners can feel superior, because the pollution their cars create happened elsewhere, possibly where the poor kids go to school. Or of course down the cobalt mines in the Congo, because out of sight out of mind, right? NIMBY-ism writ large.



Attempting to conflate the two just demonstrates your ignorance. Sure, asbestos was bad stuff. Badly maintained diesels can emit bad stuff too. Diesel emissions are heavier than air. Have you ever seen a lithium mine? Seen the processes involved in making it into a viable ingredient of batteries? Seen how the stuff is transported? It's about as environmentally friendly as the atomic bomb. But you can't see it while you wait for the kiddies after school, so that's ok then.

If you truly cared about the environment and air quality you'd be Amish, and use a horse.

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rubber tyres particles are a real problem health wise as well

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Originally Posted by sashadidi

rubber tyres particles are a real problem health wise as well

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Particles are a problem, and they are common to all vehicles. EV's do tend to be better because they have less particles from brakes. Most drives I actually don't use the friction brakes at all.

None the less - it shows that the actual best environmental outcome is to walk, ride etc. If you must drive then EV's are somewhat better than your DC ute.

Brake pad dust can be more toxic than exhaust emissions, study says | Automotive emissions | The Guardian

I worked in a near new building in one of Hobart's main thoroughfares. One of the main air intakes was above the front door which was up 1 flight of stairs and set back 15m from the street.
Maintenance to the duct was needed after about 10 years which exposed several cm of sticky black deposits of tyre dust and diesel smoke lying in there.
Disgusting!
We were breathing that.
City air is not clean by any measure.
Cheers

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Originally Posted by austastar

I worked in a near new building in one of Hobart's main thoroughfares. One of the main air intakes was above the front door which was up 1 flight of stairs and set back 15m from the street.
Maintenance to the duct was needed after about 10 years which exposed several cm of sticky black deposits of tyre dust and diesel smoke lying in there.
Disgusting!
We were breathing that.
City air is not clean by any measure.
Cheers

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I'm in the suburbs of Brisbane. Our white window sils get covered in black dust - the big bits of diesel emissions. All the little ones you never see of course. They are the ones that go through the lung membrane into the blood.

I'll say nothing about the veracity or otherwise of this vid, but if it's even half true I wouldn't be buying a Panda EV for any money. I guess we're lucky the domestic cars won't pass certification OS, or they'd be dumping them on us, or Europe. Make of this what you will, but it's food for thought..

https://youtu.be/TPfpO72AxXU?si=SwvfTKO_OfVv9IE-

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Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

I'm in the suburbs of Brisbane. Our white window sils get covered in black dust - the big bits of diesel emissions. All the little ones you never see of course. They are the ones that go through the lung membrane into the blood.

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You should see the black crud on the roof of our work vans after a month or so.
It is also extremely difficult to get off.

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Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

I'm in the suburbs of Brisbane. Our white window sils get covered in black dust - the big bits of diesel emissions. All the little ones you never see of course. They are the ones that go through the lung membrane into the blood.

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Here's your chance to get rid of the crappy stinky polluting land rover

https://www.drive.com.au/news/ford-f...ed-from-price/


Go for it! Show us how great they are :)

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Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

Here's your chance to get rid of the crappy stinky polluting land rover

https://www.drive.com.au/news/ford-f...ed-from-price/


Go for it! Show us how great they are :)

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I don't need another car. Will run what I have. Best outcome.

EDIT: though it would be an ideal substitute for all the shiny DC ute owners that are only used on the school run.. who should actually really just be driving an EV..

Speaking of monster EV utes.

The thing I found interesting here was the price per kwh and for petrol in the us is very similar. Only they get a gallon instead of a litre. I guess that's what you get for a monster military instead of healthcare.

https://youtu.be/5j16940siPE?si=Gq8PENCb-P4t40Um

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Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

Speaking of monster EV utes.

The thing I found interesting here was the price per kwh and for petrol in the us is very similar. Only they get a gallon instead of a litre. I guess that's what you get for a monster military instead of healthcare.

https://youtu.be/5j16940siPE?si=Gq8PENCb-P4t40Um

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I don't even need to watch it ... I already know the answer. It is "yes". It would be an awesome tow vehicle being electric. Its just weather you have the time and infrastructure to charge it along the route ....