Thread: EV general discussion

To a large extent, a lot of this argument is moot - if you feel strongly that EVs are terrible then don't buy one.

Others who think differently will buy them.

Reminds me of the arguments against solar panels some years back, which became irrelevant when large numbers of average Australians decided that having solar panels made sense.

For EVs that tipping point would be price, so this may be a relevant article:

Australia’s cheapest electric car, the MG ZS EV, sold out until next year | CarAdvice

Originally Posted by Arapiles

To a large extent, a lot of this argument is moot - if you feel strongly that EVs are terrible then don't buy one.

the problem is some people are trying to force it upon others when its not suitiable.

Originally Posted by Eevo

the problem is some people are trying to force it upon others when its not suitiable.

I don’t think they are forcing them on anyone,just suggesting to go that way,but strangely don’t seem to own one themselves.

Originally Posted by Eevo

the problem is some people are trying to force it upon others when its not suitiable.

Someone's making you buy an EV?

Originally Posted by scarry

I don’t think they are forcing them on anyone,just suggesting to go that way,but strangely don’t seem to own one themselves.

With a 2025 / 2030 deadline... it would seem many will be forced to go that way.

What some here are forgetting is that there are many variables in life, and often people want a vehicle that can just “get the job done” - sure they may not want a big vehicle, or as a rule so long distances, however like my Aunt, Mother and a few other members of the family are oft to do - they do like to get away on a whim, often 650-680km away (like Adelaide to Pt Lincoln).

If a person cannot afford a long distance vehicle and an EV, especially with the range to deal with such travels - what can we expect?

And WHY would we accept a technology that takes so damn long to replenish when 5 min at the pump has us good for another 400-500km?

Quick charge has proven to be detrimental to battery life, and in some manufacturers is actually limited to prevent damage. So continual runs of travel (or reps vehicles for example) will soon kill these vehicles.

What then?

The tech is moving fast, just not in unison with the supporting infrastructure tech, standards or capabilities.

Originally Posted by scarry

I don’t think they are forcing them on anyone,just suggesting to go that way,but strangely don’t seem to own one themselves.

Yes, not many EV owners posting in the thread.

Originally Posted by W&KO

Yes, not many EV owners posting in the thread.

If Elon pulls his finger out we will own one in 2021

Originally Posted by Tombie

With a 2025 / 2030 deadline... it would seem many will be forced to go that way.

The tech is moving fast, just not in unison with the supporting infrastructure tech, standards or capabilities.

I think Europe will move fast enough. Most cars spend more time parked up than being driven, and so it easy to imagine paid parking spots and parking at all accomodation having charging points across Europe - and they won’t need to be rapid charging either.

Different story for Australia and I can not see these same bans coming here before 2050. My guess is the Southern Hemisphere along with Asia and India will be running combustion engines long after Europe has banned the sale of new ICE cars and well past 2050.

The current and next generation of European built Land Rovers will be the last many of us on this forum will end up owning, although I note European car manufacturers are also moving into China so that could see us through to the end of the world in 2100.....