Thread: EV general discussion

Sounds like more than 1 Ipace has gone up while charging - Jaguar I-Pace catches on fire again – is this another Bolt EV battery fire situation? - Electrek

Funny how any EV fire gets a full page media report on it, but ICE fires that happen far more frequently - both in number and % of vehicles on the road - don't get a mention apart from maybe a 1 liner in the local rag.

Originally Posted by Homestar

Sounds like more than 1 Ipace has gone up while charging - Jaguar I-Pace catches on fire again – is this another Bolt EV battery fire situation? - Electrek

Funny how any EV fire gets a full page media report on it, but ICE fires that happen far more frequently - both in number and % of vehicles on the road - don't get a mention apart from maybe a 1 liner in the local rag.

Seems JLR customer relations in the US are the usual,same as in Aus.

Jaguar were beating their chests a while back saying all their vehicles will be electric by 2025.

So Ampol are refurbishing many of their service stations,and building new ones.

Each are going to have ONE,yes ONE EV charger.

I suppose ONE is better than NONE,but this seems a bit stupid,i thought EV charging was supposedly going to be something many will need in a year or two?

I wonder if the electrical infastructure is in place to fit more?

So what is the driver going to do for the two hours it will take to recharge from the one charger - Ampol does not normally have road stops attached to their service stations where you can sit down and have a coffee and a meal while you wait and wait and wait and wait and wait for the car to recharge - let alone the waiting time that passes ans you wait your turn to charge.

Originally Posted by 101RRS

So what is the driver going to do for the two hours it will take to recharge from the one charger - Ampol does not normally have road stops attached to their service stations where you can sit down and have a coffee and a meal while you wait and wait and wait and wait and wait for the car to recharge - let alone the waiting time that passes ans you wait your turn to charge.

Yes i have wondered as well.
No one i know is going to or has the time to sit around and wait,and wait and wait.

Blind Freddy can see the system just wont work.
Exchange change over batteries would be the way to go,that may sort of work,but the issue is every manufacturer will have a different battery,then models will be updated,and on the problems go.

If a manufacturer, such as Tesla as an example,had change over stations,for their vehicles batteries,i recon that sort of thing would take off,as it would increase the convenience,which is the main downfall of EV's for many.

A change over system would probably be an advantage to the larger manufacturers,the volume sellers of EV's,they could set them up for their vehicles,smaller manufacturers would probably fall away.

I wouldn't want to swap out the battery I have been maintaining properly with home charging and have only had for a short time only to get a crappy lesser range worn out unit coz I got short of time on a long trip (if I was an ev owner)

I have well looked after bbq gas bottles, I get them re filled and keep fittings and bottles nice and clean, I have no interest in a cruddy bottle next to my nice barby when I cooking.

Old or new they do the job but that's just me.

And the setups are leaning towards the battery being the structural floor pan as well, so I think that is a manufacturers indication that swap n go is a future no go.

Technology will improve quickly enough I believe to alleviate the issues we are talking about well before there are enough evs' to make our current negative speculations an issue.

My little 2018 ICE Picanto will not need replacing for many years and my discovery will run on diesel for many more years yet. Remember folks ICE trucks are being sold right now that won't be dumped for E power next year will they?

A mobile recharge for those who stuffed up is up an running in Japan I hear. Hydrogen fuel cell rather than battery for the charging.

Battery prices are going to be 50% by 2025 was another comment as was a current replacement cost of 6-20000 which is oddly about the quote for the replacement D3 engine

Pretty sure replacement of the batteries on the Collins Class subs are part of their refurbishment/life extension plan.

NRMA debunking EV misinformation I saw today had a bit more I think


Rate of change from 1 to 24 layers in Solid State is very quick for the company which paid for my car

"Solid-state battery manufacturer Quantumscape has released its second quarterly report for 2022, updating the public to its progress in scaling affordable, energy dense cells for future EVs. The company continues to expand the amount of layers possible in its solid-state cell technology, while simultaneously preparing for scaled assembly for a growing list of OEMs. Here’s the latest.
QuantumScape ($QS) is a battery technology company founded in 2010 with the goal of developing scalable, effective solid-state batteries that can (hopefully) reach cost parity with traditional lithium-ion cells.
Although it has been working for over a decade, the battery developer really started gaining momentum in 2020 when it announced it had reached a “major breakthrough” by utilizing a ceramic separator. This lead to the successful testing of single-layer prototype cells. After doubling the size of its initial pilot manufacturing line, Quantumscape revealed it had also developed 10-layer cells, followed by a 16-layer prototype.
This past February, QuantumScape shared another industry first with a single-layer cell that completed 400 consecutive 15-minute fast-charge cycles, replenishing from 10% to 80% capacity while still retaining over 80% of its initial energy.
Now, Quantumscape has revealed a 24-layer cell as well as a slew of other updates."

NOT investment advice. I sold all of mine to pay for the MG.

IF solid state battery as good as predicted my pathetic 200km + a bit MG range could be 1000km or so. If the cost is ok and the fuel cell bit I am following works I think across Australia with out refueling may be possible before 2030.

Not a betting person. I do wonder if all those betting companies would take a bet on the topic?

A few "ifs" in that prediction. And in my view 2030 is wildly optimistic.

It will eventually happen, but this sort of prediction is remarkably similar to the predictions when I was at school seventy years ago that within twenty years we would all have flying cars, and would only be working ten hours a week.