Thread: EV general discussion

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

On the bummer side for EV, home or work
"Energy giant warns electricity prices could increase by 35 per cent next year

"

No surprise at all,and it will continue.

Those that go on about it coming down,even in the long run are dreaming.

This gives some good info as to how much power is actually needed to charge EVs.



Home Solar EV charging explained — Clean Energy Reviews

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

"It forecasts that within a few years commercial fleets and tradies will be able to save money by switching to EV utes and vans"


The stories are funny and dubious until Solid state batteries come shortly. I agree with this claim "Added to this, EVs were significantly cheaper to run and service than ICE vehicles.
"We spend in the millions on diesel each year and close to the millions on repair and maintenance," he said.
"The expected reduction in our fuel costs is probably close to 50 per cent over a diesel vehicle."
"

I read about 2024 baby hummer EV due next year with 350kwH battery pack. The Hummer news "The mystery has been solved! It has been confirmed the 2022 GMC Hummer EV caught by our spy at Sydney Airport earlier this week was brought over to be used in a new movie starring Ryan Gosling.
Click here to learn about the Hummer’s role in the film.
The original story story continues unchanged below.
Wednesday 5 October 2022: A 2022 GMC Hummer EV has arrived on Australian soil, signalling the possibility of the electric pick-up being offered in our market."

Hype again! its for a movie not for sale

The new ute I mentioned is a "Chevrolet Silverado 2024: 640km range for new electric pick-up ute""


Solid state batteries are one key I think. NASA in the mix on that as well.

""Battery costs are roughly half the cost of the vehicle, and the cost of a battery pack should roughly halve by the end of the decade."The report predicts EVs will account for 55 per cent of new sales of light commercial vehicles (ie utes and vans) by 2030."

Rate of change and costs are getting clearer I think.

We can keep asking "are we there yet" of course

On the bummer side for EV, home or work
"Energy giant warns electricity prices could increase by 35 per cent next year

"

Gee that’s great.

So the future has:
Significantly High(er) energy prices
Higher diesel prices
Lots of unemployment for mechanics

Yay (sarcasm)

Originally Posted by Tombie

Gee that’s great.

So the future has:
Significantly High(er) energy prices
Higher diesel prices
Lots of unemployment for mechanics

Yay (sarcasm)

Audi/ruski collaboration making sarcasm turn to a bit of biting I think

Mean while at the petrol station they are introducing limits.

Only $10K allowed per fill now

10000 limit.jpg

Originally Posted by Tombie

Gee that’s great.

So the future has:
Significantly High(er) energy prices
Higher diesel prices
Lots of unemployment for mechanics

Yay (sarcasm)

Yay indeed.... But someway off yet as I know a lot of people that are now holding onto what they've got and will run them for many more year that they previously would have. This is exactly the opposite of what is trying to be achieved, and just the other day they had some muppet on the radio saying there are too many old cars on the road and they were lobbying the gubment to introduce legislation to curb this - well you can imagine that went down with the listeners like a turd in a lift...

And I'll take any Mechanics that are looking for work - we're about 3 short at the moment and they are unobtainium no matter how much money you wave at them or how good the conditions are (pretty bloody good here) but we do need a specific skill set - which it seems the rest of Australia wants as well...

Power cost UK style. Might happen here of course

"The RAC says the price of recharging an average family-size car at public points has risen by 42 per cent since the spring. On average, this cost is now more than £32, a whopping £9.60 higher than in May 2022.
The good news is there are various ways to minimise these day-to-day costs if you act smart about this."

While I am at the negative side- Bloody 12volt battery are a PITA

I have a charger /rejuvenation cycle to keep mine working

"There is no starter motor in an EV so the 12V battery never has to delivery high current or peak power as when starting an ICE vehicle. The things that cause a 12V lead acid battery to fail prematurely are load, heat, vibration and time."

"A large portion (approaching 50%) of lead acid batteries have diminished capacity or become unusable due to sulphation, and never reach their rated lifespan"

Issue is for all EV brands I think. If the 12 volt battery is shot the High Voltage battery can not be accessed for use!

Why do EVs have a 12 volt battery- All the normal stuff in you car is in EV and it is all 12 volt. The main battery is OFF when car is off.

Noticed mine was a bit off and fixed it quickly. A forum suggests other found out too late and have replaced the 12 volt battery

Suggestion for manufacturers -

While solar panels on an EV cannot have enough area to make a significant difference to the main battery, it would be simple and cheap to include a small solar panel to keep the 12v battery up. Unless parked in a dark garage it would not take a large area to cover the drain from systems always active.

(I have found that a 5W panel connected to my tractor has extended the battery life to near a decade rather than a year or two. It spends long periods unused.)

Originally Posted by scarry

This gives some good info as to how much power is actually needed to charge EVs.



Home Solar EV charging explained — Clean Energy Reviews

my 5kw home solar produces more energy than I use & that includes charging the Landy . Even over the last few months with all the rain we are still in credit . I avoid using a lot of power during the day , as we get $0.80 per kwh feed in tariff , and Use the dryer, pool pump & charge Landy at night for $0.20 per kwh.