Thread: EV general discussion

Absolutely agree, EV’s are certainly the right car for many applications and people and I actually think most families could make one work easily as a second car leaving the dual cab to get them to Dingo **** Creek on the weekends.

There’s the zealots on both sides - ICE owners that think EV’s are useless at anything and everything and EV users that think the whole world should switch to them straight away and that they can do everything.

Like pretty much everything these days the truth falls somewhere in the middle.

There was an interesting article in our state paper yesterday about Nissan developing a modular system that included a petrol range extender engine and electric drive motor(s). Might be a good option for retrofit in to older landies in the future... They aim to have it across their model range in the next few years.

Originally Posted by Homestar

Absolutely agree, EV’s are certainly the right car for many applications and people and I actually think most families could make one work easily as a second car leaving the dual cab to get them to Dingo **** Creek on the weekends.

There’s the zealots on both sides - ICE owners that think EV’s are useless at anything and everything and EV users that think the whole world should switch to them straight away and that they can do everything.

Like pretty much everything these days the truth falls somewhere in the middle.

Or Darby & Joan (for this pair of little black ducks).

Originally Posted by vnx205

An EV isn't the right vehicle for some people.

However some of the critics of EVs try to suggest that they are completely useless.

Their criticisms seem to be based on the assumption that everyone needs to tow a 3.5 tonne caravan on a 1000 km trip every time they set forth.

I have yet to see a Toyota Corolla towing a 3.5 tonne caravan or a huge yacht, but it is the best selling car of all time.

If the EV critics' criterion for what makes a car useful were correct, then Toyota should not have sold any.

There is no problem with someone saying that an EV doesn't meet their needs, but a Toyota Corolla wouldn't meet their needs either, yet their are a lot of happy Corolla owners around the world.

There are also a lot of happy EV owners. They don't tow 3.5 tonne caravans, but neither do Corolla owners or the vast majority of other drivers.

Our EV is replacing our VW golf. In the 7 years we have owned it - I can only think of one weekend trip where I might have had to charge outside the home.

For longer trips, big jobs we have a defender! Everything else can be done by the EV.

I would love to have an EV. But two basic problems:-

1. I see no prospect of being able to afford any EV, let alone one that would work for me.

2. As far as I am aware, there is no EV available in Australia that could actually reach my house (ground clearance, approach and departure angles, etc. - four wheel drive is essential most of the time).

Last Monday I drove from here to Brisbane via Cecil Plains, 3 on board with the back of the 110 full to the roof leaving one rear seat free. One stop for fuel and a meal at Goondiwindi for about half an hour. The other stop, for about an hour was at a on farm dam location to pick up a passenger. Saturday did the return trip, same stops. Getting out of here and the farm location at Cecil Plains required four wheel drive (there was 3" rain the previous day, and it is blacksoil). The 110, with a 60l aux tank, has a safe range of 1200km. Two drivers were used both ways.

Is there any EV even on the horizon, that would be remotely capable of this trip, at any price?

Nope, not now - doubtful ever.

Just rto stir the pot a bit, here is an article from Reuters on insurance problems with EVs.
I guess all the stored batteries are a cheap source for EV converters but the insurance rates n the USA are a bit eyewatering.
Scratched EV battery? Your insurer may have to junk the whole car | Reuters

Regards PhilipA

Originally Posted by PhilipA

Just rto stir the pot a bit, here is an article from Reuters on insurance problems with EVs.
I guess all the stored batteries are a cheap source for EV converters but the insurance rates n the USA are a bit eyewatering.
Scratched EV battery? Your insurer may have to junk the whole car | Reuters

Regards PhilipA

Lithium are if damaged at all

Only a year and a bit for Solid state non issue types I hope


you missed the perfect pot stir the Hydrogen fire?

"Toyota Withdraws Liquid Hydrogen Corolla After Testing Fire "

On the bright side "The leak was detected by failsafe sensor, causing the supply of hydrogen to be cut and preventing the fire from spreading beyond the engine bay. The pipe design will be reviewed with the presumed aim of taking part in the second round of the season, the Fuji 24 Hours, in late May.

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Of interest was the HEAT- The Corolla is a ICE engine fueled by hydrogen?

It might be this one



Odd as Toyota has fuel cells which are far cooler The Mirai is speed limited to 175 kph so not likely to be a race in that set up.

My old MG Just started suggesting it needs a second service soon Getting close to the 39,000km and May 2003date alas

Just booked it- apparently is my 40,000 service and cost peanuts again

Sell it, trade it or give it to kids???

Have to sell something to pay for the 500km new version about 59k- ouch .I suspect might get 400km range at speedIt is a newer lithium battery tech "lithium iron phosphate" and almost twice the 42kWh size with 72.6kwh

- still not the right one in my book.

PS - off topic - So many Tyre kickers for my disco is driving me a bit nuts