Thread: EV general discussion

Diesel around here has been $1.95 to $2.00 for months.QLD generally always has expensive fuel.

Saw it near Minden last week for something like $1.75 last week.

I fuel at Costco, diesel has been under $1.70 all year.

Originally Posted by V8Ian

I fuel at Costco, diesel has been under $1.70 all year.

Your lucky to have one near you.None near here,only 2 in Brisbane area says Google.

Originally Posted by scarry

Your lucky to have one near you.None near here,only 2 in Brisbane area says Google.

Yep, Bundamba and North Lakes, but I believe one will be opening at Yatala soon.
Well worth the thirty bucks for a card, in my case for fuel alone. I rarely enter the shop.

[QUOTE=Captain_Rightfoot;3258237

PS I hope everyone else does enough to avoid the worst effects of climate change for your kids.[/QUOTE]

That is the most ridiculous thing I've read this year. How do you think you driving an electric throw-away that will burn and taint the earth for the future generations........... That will end up burried leaking toxic chemical save the wold.

This EV thing is just a luny cult, I've never been more sure of this than reading this thread.

Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

That is the most ridiculous thing I've read this year. How do you think you driving an electric throw-away that will burn and taint the earth for the future generations........... That will end up burried leaking toxic chemical save the wold.

This EV thing is just a luny cult, I've never been more sure of this than reading this thread.

This thread keeps delivering.

Why would you want to buy an EV?

1. Cheap to run: When presented with clear evidence it's just completely denied.
2. Lower environmental cost: Who cares! Climate change is a loony cook up.
3. Pleasant to own/drive: ????

So hit me with your critique of point three? IMHO point three is very subjective so you can really let yourself go here. Points for style.

My experience is how a car drives is down to personal taste. But I'm happy with mine. It's a big car, but it's got RWD, a lower CG and four wheel independent suspension.. it's pretty nice. Ride is a little firm for my taste. Overall I like it and I'm told the new model has improvements. From a family perspective it's great. big, comfortable. Space everywhere that just doesn't exist in ICE cars. The tech integration works well so it's great as a single car that all the family members drive. It's a great tool for a city car. No more fuel stations or sending it off for servicing. Great uptime compared to cars we've owned in the past.

According to the Ampol site a couple of weeks ago, their chargers are 75c a Kwh. There are discounts available eg NRMA is 5c a l for fuel. Two are very slowly being installed at Kincumber Coles and has been apparently finished for about 2 weeks but not open. I wonder if the sub station has to be upgraded?
Captain Rightfoot you do not mention the Elephant in the room; DEPRECIATION, insurance, additional tyres compared to similar size but lighter ICE car. Depreciation is generally the highest cost of car ownership.
This CO2 thing is strange. Hothouses pump CO2 into their buildings to promote plant Growth. I have seen reports that World desert total area is reducing by regreening. These should be considered tremendously good results from more CO2 but this is ignored by the doomsdayers. I personally live in an area where there are many wave cut platforms currently way above high tide level to me showing that the sea level has been much higher in the past. The sandstone columns in Phuket and Ha Long bays show erosion way above current sea level. Maybe many of the doomsdayers own coastal properties on the first sandhill. That is certainly the case at Wamberal where the residents now want to be bailed out by other ratepayers.

Regards PhilipA

Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

This thread keeps delivering.

Why would you want to buy an EV?

I don't ... they interest me about as much as watching grass grow...... Just like nearly every other modern car.

1. Cheap to run: When presented with clear evidence it's just completely denied.

Really, so if I spend many tens of thousands on a new car, tens of thousands on a big solar system, I'm home during the day, I have offstreet parking .... and I'm very wealthy and own my own house .... It can be cheap to run .... Wow ... Just incredible (what a load of crap). This also ignores the horendous depreciation.

2. Lower environmental cost: Who cares! Climate change is a loony cook up.

I don't believe that for a second. So we aren't digging up half the planet using child labour to build the batteries .... There is HUGE losses in the power it takes in charging them. We burn a huge amount of coal to boil the water to create electricity. Then we step the power up (transformer losses), send it down the high voltage lines (more losses), Step the voltage down (more losses)... then finally eventually ... we get to a DC charger than has upto a 30% power loss. Just amazing right?

But all of this is irrelevant really.... there is now what ... forty million electric cars in the world. They batteries will last 5 -> 8 years. They are very dangerous to store. "In theory" they can be recycled, but are certainly NOT. Talk about an environmental catastrophe in the making ... what in the hell will we do with 40million giant batteries other then bury them so they don't torch off half the world.

3. Pleasant to own/drive: ????

So? Who cares. I bet a nice big V8 mercedes from the last century is WAAAAaaaaayyyyy nicer to drive.

So hit me with your critique of point three? IMHO point three is very subjective so you can really let yourself go here. Points for style.

I honestly don't care. Electric cars are about as interesting as comparing fridges as the local harvey norman .... I seriously couldn't care less (don't worry, this goes for most modern cars ... not just the electric throw-aways)

My experience is how a car drives is down to personal taste. But I'm happy with mine. It's a big car, but it's got RWD, a lower CG and four wheel independent suspension.. it's pretty nice. Ride is a little firm for my taste. Overall I like it and I'm told the new model has improvements. From a family perspective it's great. big, comfortable. Space everywhere that just doesn't exist in ICE cars. The tech integration works well so it's great as a single car that all the family members drive. It's a great tool for a city car. No more fuel stations or sending it off for servicing. Great uptime compared to cars we've owned in the past.

Wow ... incredible. Lets look at the Citroen 2cv that dates back to the 1930s. independant suspension (check), ride quality (awesome ... night on incredible), lots of interior space, small on the outside... The tech integration is amazing. It has headlights, a wiper ... a heater fan. Just fabulous. Everything I need. All of the family members and my 12 year old can drive it. It might need 20litres of fuel every few hundred kms (don't worry, costs bugger all and takes about 90 seconds to fill the tank).

Amazing right?? Better than any EV ever made.

Everything you claim is amazing about an EV we have done for nearly 100year ... without fan fare. It is expected. I don't want any ****ty tech integration for any reason. That is the worse thing that has ever happened to a motor vehicle IMO.

seeya
Shane L.