Thread: EV general discussion

Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

I suspect part of the problem is many of these manufacturers went a bit half strength, and then got dissapointed that not enough people bought their cars. Unfortunately they then canned them just before this giant mess. Unfortunately they had done a very very good job of convincing their target market that they only wanted ICE cars and EV's were a bit silly. Double unfortunately the cars they had persuaded people that they need are less than ideal for electrification. So I don't think they should have been surprised by the failure.

The chinese knew they couldn't compete with legacy auto so went all in on EV's. So now they are coming fast and strong. Succulent Chinese Wheels if you like.

Besides my cheap to service and free to run MG (not so British classic) I love a good Xiao Ling boa or Mapo tofu

Also admire the Chinese 10ish per year Nuclear power stations

Back to EV specificish CFA wanted my autograph on a Document. 40ish each way at 15-16 kwh of power per 100 @ sunshine rates (new tires and service for the next 40,000 km did cost of course) My Tin Foil hat is on now. I Loved my Disco just not the costs!

Easter will be off to Port F for visiting duties and Leg of Western District Lamb will cost about $30 fast charging in one of the several places that exist now. It was a lot harder with the XS ev as almost no chargers that I could pay for existed then.

Burning oil is getting hot! Rootin tooting put## will be grumpy.

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

Besides my cheap to service and free to run MG (not so British classic) I love a good Xiao Ling boa or Mapo tofu

Also admire the Chinese 10ish per year Nuclear power stations

Back to EV specificish CFA wanted my autograph on a Document. 40ish each way at 15-16 kwh of power per 100 @ sunshine rates (new tires and service for the next 40,000 km did cost of course) My Tin Foil hat is on now. I Loved my Disco just not the costs!

Easter will be off to Port F for visiting duties and Leg of Western District Lamb will cost about $30 fast charging in one of the several places that exist now. It was a lot harder with the XS ev as almost no chargers that I could pay for existed then.

Burning oil is getting hot! Rootin tooting put## will be grumpy.

Rembember .. it's called "War Juice"

Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

If you're buying a porche like that there is no way your boat is trailerable. It's moored at a nice yacht club and you can drive their quickly for weekends on the water.

Interestingly, I did an 8 hour driving, 9 hour total, round trip of 600 km today, with a mate, in a 100 series 'Cruiser. (Read 'Slug') The return 4 and a half hours involved 'Slug' towing a 5.4 metre, plate, cuddy cab on a tandem trailer. We fuelled once, at the start of the trip.

I'm not aware of any EV that could pull off that feat.

p.s. the lost hour was sorting the paperwork with the boat vendor, over a cuppa.

I do not think it's conceivalbe that toyota could have had better timing for this release. They will sell every single one they can get.

The battery is a bit small but will have enough for many. If they are honest about their needs.

2026 Toyota HiLux BEV Pricing:

• 2026 Toyota HiLux BEV SR double cab-chassis - $74,990
• 2026 Toyota HiLux BEV SR double-cab pick-up - $76,490
• 2026 Toyota HiLux BEV SR5 double-cab pick-up - $82,990

Toyota’s First-Ever Electric HiLux Arrives In Australia From $74,990 - CarSauce

Originally Posted by Saitch

Interestingly, I did an 8 hour driving, 9 hour total, round trip of 600 km today, with a mate, in a 100 series 'Cruiser. (Read 'Slug') The return 4 and a half hours involved 'Slug' towing a 5.4 metre, plate, cuddy cab on a tandem trailer. We fuelled once, at the start of the trip.

I'm not aware of any EV that could pull off that feat.

p.s. the lost hour was sorting the paperwork with the boat vendor, over a cuppa.

Absolutely the modern diesel has some great capabilities that many Australians love and use. No questions there.

All vehicles have their strong points and their weakpoints. Using a defender or a 100 series as a city car.. yes it can be done - but is it ideal? Is it as good as an EV in that role. Probably not close.

In the case of multi car families, how many people need landcruiser capability in all their vehicles? Yet that is common place in cities around Australia.

This is an intersting video. In some ways because it's the second time they have done the same drive.

It shows that EV's are now very capable highway cars as long as you aren't going very remote.

Just a reminder though.. I see a lot of this. "Your EV doesn't save you much money over a good hybrid!". People seem to think that the EV needs to beat the best of the best to be considered of any use at all. (let's call the camry one of the most economical hybrids on the market).

But the reality is Australians aren't buying these cars in huge quantities. With the exception of the RAV4, the average economy of the rest of the top 10 is much higher.

Anyway the EV still beat the hybrid on cost.. even before the current little hiccup.

2025 Top 10 cars in Australia:

1. Ford Ranger ute – 56,555 (-9.6%)
2. Toyota RAV4 medium SUV – 51,947 (-11.5%)
3. Toyota HiLux ute – 51,297 (-4.1%)
4. Isuzu D-Max ute – 26,839 (-11.1%)
5. Ford Everest large SUV – 26,161 (-1.3%)
6. Toyota LandCruiser Prado large SUV – 26,106 (+166.3%)
7. Hyundai Kona small SUV – 22,769 (+31.1%)
8. Mazda CX-5 medium SUV – 22,742 (-0.4%)
9. Mitsubishi Outlander medium SUV – 22,459 (-18.7%)
10. Tesla Model Y medium SUV – 22,239 (+4.6%)

Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot

Absolutely the modern diesel has some great capabilities that many Australians love and use. No questions there.

All vehicles have their strong points and their weakpoints. Using a defender or a 100 series as a city car.. yes it can be done - but is it ideal? Is it as good as an EV in that role. Probably not close.

In the case of multi car families, how many people need landcruiser capability in all their vehicles? Yet that is common place in cities around Australia.

I wouldn't call a 1HZ a modern diesel. But, is there an EV that will do what we just did? Yes or No?

Originally Posted by Saitch

Interestingly, I did an 8 hour driving, 9 hour total, round trip of 600 km today, with a mate, in a 100 series 'Cruiser. (Read 'Slug') The return 4 and a half hours involved 'Slug' towing a 5.4 metre, plate, cuddy cab on a tandem trailer. We fuelled once, at the start of the trip.

I'm not aware of any EV that could pull off that feat.

p.s. the lost hour was sorting the paperwork with the boat vendor, over a cuppa.

The BEV Hilux is getting close to being able to do that trip with 315 km "lab" range and 2 ton towing and fast recharge while you have a cuppa, and it is only the first iteration.

One that could've done the trip is a F150 Lightning with up to 582 km range and 4 ton towing.


Toyota’s First-Ever Electric HiLux Arrives In Australia From $74,990 - CarSauce