New Rivian Video

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Originally Posted by manic

The Rivian has four independent electric motors, zero need for braked traction control or diff locks.

That kind of drive train absolutely obliterates the Defender in terms of capability.

Good size tyres with plenty of float and it should do very well. It certainly won't feel it's weight or any drag with all that power!

If they can put a gas turbine range extender on these platforms it will be next level!

Mitsubishi Mi-Tech Debuts As Open-Top SUV With Gas Turbine Engine

To keep up, Land Rover would need to completely redesign their platform for FOUR motor drive!

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Uggh, Getting back to the subject.

This Is LRs system

However check this out.

Jaguar Land Rover believes battery power is not the best choice for heavy SUVs

I think we will see a nitrogen powered defender based on these comments, or maybe as you mention some other combo.

Will also be interesting to see how rivian does with range in Australia in the outback with air conditioning,radio, lights etc on or in winter in other countries with heater going full blast.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f8d05c5abb.jpg

BR, that's a two motor system running through differentials. The Rivian has a dedicated motor for each wheel, no diffs afaik.

Apologies to all upset
I did let things drift a bit away from the Rivian

I believe FORD has an F150 EV with 400 mile range close
Will be so interesting to see where a big player goes with EV pickup

Too be honest I wouldn’t be surprised if Rivian gets a buyout offer from Ford etc
Maybe then the front clip might look good!

S

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

I think LRs system in MLA is Electric motor front and rear where the diffs usually are.

I believe LR have come out saying full BEVs 4x4s are counterproductive efficiency wise.

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LandRover are full of ****, heres another fact, Braked traction control is counterproductive to traction.

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Originally Posted by roverrescue

Apologies to all upset
I did let things drift a bit away from the Rivian

I believe FORD has an F150 EV with 400 mile range close
Will be so interesting to see where a big player goes with EV pickup

Too be honest I wouldn’t be surprised if Rivian gets a buyout offer from Ford etc
Maybe then the front clip might look good!

S

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There is a Rivian prototype , Mule if you like, F150 body on a Rivian skateboard .

2020 Rivian A1T pickup truck EV spied with F-150 body | Autoblog

Im guessing this is likely to be one...

https://youtu.be/4elIMVO4ytk

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Originally Posted by manic

BR, that's a two motor system running through differentials. The Rivian has a dedicated motor for each wheel, no diffs afaik.

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Agreed

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Originally Posted by roverrescue

Apologies to all upset
I did let things drift a bit away from the Rivian

I believe FORD has an F150 EV with 400 mile range close
Will be so interesting to see where a big player goes with EV pickup

Too be honest I wouldn’t be surprised if Rivian gets a buyout offer from Ford etc
Maybe then the front clip might look good!

S

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They have huge financial backing from some big companies.

I've got a soft spot for rivian was posting up about them in the won't be retro thread early days from memory. One looks like a Rangie

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Originally Posted by goingbush

LandRover are full of....

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Explain howso with facts rather than swearing? [emoji6]

Their logic makes sense to me when you start talking about touring range, not just to your local shops.

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

Explain howso with facts rather than swearing? [emoji6]

Their logic makes sense to me when you start talking about touring range, not just to your local shops.

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Traction control works via application off the brake, thus robbing power and momentum, its inefficient, not to mention wears out the diff.
Range Anxiety or not, all cars will be electric faster than you can say Jack Robinson, something you need to live with, or catch a bus. (that will be an Electric bus)

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Originally Posted by goingbush

Traction control works via application off the brake, thus robbing power and momentum, its inefficient, not to mention wears out the diff.
Range Anxiety or not, all cars will be electric faster than you can say Jack Robinson, something you need to live with, or catch a bus. (that will be an Electric bus)

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Not talking about traction control, ill leave that for another appropriate thread. However i have no probs with how the latest LR products perform in this regard.

Sorry, so how is LR wrong by saying what they are saying above regarding BEVs not being suitable for large SUVs? I dont see your answer fact wise.

They are basically saying that other more appropriate Technologies might be more suitable, how is that not reasonable.

It seems to be that the most common argument against BEVs on this forum mimics LRs sentiments also.