Thread: Electric Overland trucks

"Developed in collaboration with Toyota Motor North America, 10 zero-emission Kenworth T680s powered by Toyota hydrogen fuel cell electric powertrains will transport cargo across the Los Angeles basin to inland cities." Range 300miles (482km) before refueling
Down size to a Landrover size weight and a rough guess would be 2000+++km Just joshing as clearly the H2 carried, Electric engine and battery able to be carried in a semi will be to big for my disco

Originally Posted by Jojo

Exactly there where you are getting your fuel for the trip.

I can go well over 1000km without a servo in a vehicle that does 20/100 others much further and 2000km with a vehicle that does 10’s is absolutely possible. I can get fuel drops along route if needed in places - you’re still dodging the question of how an EV can travel these sort of distances and places. You say ‘It will happen in the near future’ without saying or describing the physics that will allow this - you just believe it will whereas others here understand Physics and what it would take and know it isn’t close at all for cases like this - it’s all pie in the sky, you need to have a hard look at the evidence - not here, but the actual physics of batteries, recharging, etc. I won’t harp on any more about it, you - like everyone else that pedals the pie in the sky part of EV have zero answers, just the same tired old rhetoric. Maybe give it a rest, no one believes you.

Get back to me when you can share how EV overland vehicles can replace ICE in these instances, I’ll be all ears, not BS hopes and dreams - you can’t power your car on those.

As you say - case closed - against you.

Originally Posted by Homestar

I can go well over 1000km without a servo in a vehicle that does 20/100 others much further and 2000km with a vehicle that does 10’s is absolutely possible.

In this case you obviously run a custom built vehicle on those trips. If challenged, one could purpose build an EV as well. But that's not the point. The EVs presented at the start of this thread compare to ordinary standard trucks, such as mine. 1000km in a stock standard Land Rover is out of the question without use of jerry cans, which take up plenty of space and add weight. I have done my overlanding with my family aboard, so space definitely has been an issue.

Originally Posted by Homestar

...without saying or describing the physics that will allow this - you just believe it will whereas others here understand Physics and what it would take and know it isn’t close at all for cases like this - it’s all pie in the sky, you need to have a hard look at the evidence - not here, but the actual physics of batteries, recharging, etc. I won’t harp on any more about it, you - like everyone else that pedals the pie in the sky part of EV have zero answers, just the same tired old rhetoric. Maybe give it a rest, no one believes you.

Get back to me when you can share how EV overland vehicles can replace ICE in these instances, I’ll be all ears, not BS hopes and dreams - you can’t power your car on those.

As you say - case closed - against you.

And, btw, if you would sit down for a moment and relax, restraining from taking things personally (as it was not intended to insult you but I definitely do not apologise for having an opinion different from yours) and actually consider trying an EV and changing your approach, you will see things from a different perspective.
I have been driving EVs now for quite some time and have heard all those resentments and reference to 'evidence' from early on, so far to prove them wrong. Now these comments have all but quieted down and reality has shown the critics otherwise.
Once again, you are entitled to have your opinion and I am not interested in convincing you to change. Experience will do, even in your case. My purpose with this thread was to give en eye opener for things possible and maybe att some inspiration to those who are interested. If you don't want/need/can handle this, fine. But stop getting personal and insulting, adjust your attitude, please!

Not taking it personally at all mate - it’s just that you just haven’t provided anything remotely plausible explaining how one would go about such a thing is all but prattle on with your holier than thou attitude as if you’re the only one who is right. Myself and others that have posted here are PRO EV - We have mentioned that but we want to know how to do long remote travel in one - you said it’s possible, then said it will be possible soon, then said build a custom rig - all without actually talking about how to do that.

I’m all ears now with this custom rig bit - please explain the 1000KM plus remote off road tourer to me as far as battery packs, weight, etc go - remember of course to allow for extra power usage when crossing hilly or soft terrain, What vehicle base you’d use, total GVM, battery pack weight and KWH rating, motor size and cost.

I await the details.

I remember at one stage Tesla was talking about battery packs being swapped in and out, but that idea seems to have gone quiet.
I have seen mining trucks with engine packs that could be swapped to keep the truck working whil a failed engine pack was repaired, but it needs specialist equipment.

The battery swap system in concept is a good idea but sort of went dead as the costs involved in the infrastructure are large and limited to one model as none of the OEM’s build things the same unfortunately. If they could all sit down and agree on a spec across a range of vehicles that could be viable long term but I bet every OEM things their designs are the best so I wouldn’t hold my breath on that any time soon.

There are something like 18 bolts to be undone to remove aTesla battery and it weighs several hundred kilos.
to replace the battery it must be positioned exactly right or the contacts are bent.
Ask Rich rebuilds . He had Some angst.

Then there is the problem of differing battery age.Who would swap say a 2 year old battery for a 6 year old one?

So it would need either pits, which are generally illegal or hoists with a high capacity lift underneath and jigs to ensure accurate connections . Sounds expensive both in equipment and labour.

regards PhilipA