Thread: How much do you know about Hydrogen?

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Hydrogen-powered garbage truck hits streets in the Illawarra

Waste services and recycling company Remondis started using the 110-kilowatt electric vehicle, which is both environmentally friendly and significantly quieter than a diesel truck – in its operations in Wollongong and Shellharbour today.
Regional manager Chris Wade said the company wanted to demonstrate how carbon-free transport could work in an industrial setting.

Key points:

• The vehicle operates by combining hydrogen with air to generate electricity
• It is purported to be 60 per cent quieter than diesel-powered waste collection trucks
• It has a range of about 200 kilometres and the capacity to carry out about 1,000 bin-lifts



Hydrogen-powered garbage truck arrives in the Illawarra


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The truck will result in 25,000 litres of diesel fuel being saved annually – the amount a conventional diesel-powered waste collection truck of this size uses. Up to 75 tonnes of carbon emissions would also be eliminated each year.

The truck is also significantly quieter than diesel trucks. from Big Rigs
The diesel garbage truck here is rather LOUD. Luckily I am up at the time it comes past

Wow, that makes our sound like the perfect vehicle.

Originally Posted by John_D4

Wow, that makes our sound like the perfect vehicle.

Sound? I was hoping for quiet Just kidding John

Sorry didn’t see that typo before pressing send. Meant to say that it sounds like the perfect vehicle for that job

All I know is:
Atomic number 1
Light
Sub-par for airships

Originally Posted by VladTepes

All I know is:
Atomic number 1
Light
Sub-par for airships

Try this one "At last count, WA imports about 7.8 billion litres of diesel per year, equivalent to 2 billion kilograms of hydrogen"

That is a interesting number I thought Link to inprincipled idea maybe perhaps.

As was a poo plant I have been watching for years

NOT INVESTNENT ADVICE!!!
Not Maybe and Not perhaps at Woodmans Point! Link
Less than 50KM from 18-20 Ledgar Rd, Balcatta to Woodmans Point and my thoughts only!!!!

I have a bit of interest in SMR- Small Modular Reactors in the Nuclear Power area. Looking at the reactor for the CDP makes it clear that scaling the reactors up and replication of it would be very similar for Mass-production.
for Hazer Projects already and the ones we do not yet see

1. Suncor and FortisBC Energy to develop a 2500 tonne per annum hydrogen project
2. Hazer and ENGIE Project Development Plan (“PDP”) at Montoir-de-Bretagne in France he planned production facility is targeting an initial production capacity of at least 2,500 tonne per annum (tpa) of hydrogen
3. Nagoya-based Chubu Electric Power Company Inc. and Chiyoda Corporation to work together on a Project Development Plan (PDP) up to 100,000 tpa

The scale up via adding extra reactor Modules and in increasing the reactor size is both achievable.

"The EU has budgeted €45 billion for building a network of hydrogen fueling stations throughout the continent by 2030. By official mandate, every arterial road must have hydrogen pumps no farther than 200km apart (about 125 miles). This will eliminate hydrogen's biggest hurdle: the simple question of "But where to I refill it?""

this is fromProof That Toyota Is Betting Big On Hydrogen Despite The Development Of Its 745-mile Solid-state Battery

Bets are not my thing. I am possibly the world's worst gambler despite taking several thousand from Hobart Casino once. Not giving it back

"Toyota intends to sell at least 100,000 hydrogen cars per year by 2030."

At a quick estimate of units I thought of "average distance traveled in cars per year EU" Link is not new. About 15 per day or *365 5000km ish per year. I put 3000km on my new MG4 in the last 3 weeks

MG has "What is the equivalent fuel consumption of an electric car?

01-07-2022
We are all used to the fact that the fuel consumption of a petrol or diesel car is expressed in litres per hundred kilometres (l/100 km). Many motorists can immediately estimate whether that’s on the high or low side in relation to the car. But what about an electric car? And how do I know whether an electric car is efficient or not? Find out everything you need to know.
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It claims " a litre of petrol contains about 8.9 kWh of energy. If we convert this and compare it with the energy consumption of the MG5 Electric Long Range (15.3 kWh/100 km divided by 8.9 kWh/litre), you have an equivalent fuel consumption of just 1.7 l/100 km."

My MG4 seems to be a bit better per 100km traveled yet it will not do "of "Range of up to 435km‡". The "‡" means come in spinner. so caution is required of course. Canadian numbers agree with 1 litre of petrol being 8.9kWh of energy.

A Kilogram of Hydrogen is "A kilogramme of hydrogen - the unit most often used – has an energy value of about 33.3 kWh.[1] So a tonne of hydrogen delivers about 33 MWh and a million tonnes about 33 terawatt hours"


Back to EU Toyota with 100,000 cars (or others ) each traveling 5000km or so per year. how much hydrogen does Toyota mirai use per 100km showed 0.55 kg/100km.

My very rough number for hydrogen consumption is therefore 275kg of hydrogen per car or 27,500,000 kilos for 100,000 hydrogen cars!
The Hazer CDP is Approximately 100 tonnes per annum capacity.

"Chubu Electric would use the hydrogen from the potential Japanese plant as a fuel for power generation and other hard-to-abate industries, including transport, in the Nagoya area.“We believe the Hazer technology offers an attractive solution to locally produce low carbon hydrogen, using our existing supply chains and infrastructure,” Kouji Sada, Chubu’s general manager of electric power research, said.The plant would produce between 50,000 and 100,000 tonnes of hydrogen a year after beginning at 2500 and 10,000 tonnes in the late 2020s. The companies aim to finalise a binding deal by mid-2024.Japan is one of the strongest advocates of hydrogen, becoming the first country in the world to draw up a national plan for its use in 2017."

Canada "Hazer-BC Project, based in Vancouver, British Columbia, is a joint venture to develop a commercial Hazer
plant designed to produce up to 2,500 tonnes per annum (tpa) of hydrogen, a scale-up of 25 times on the
Commercial Demonstration Plant (“CDP”)."



Pure fun in my numbers. Excuse me if any errors. NOT INVESTMENT ADVICE

Did not bother with the test as my knowledge of hydrogen is a bit on the light side....