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When would you like it delivered? [emoji56]Quote:
Originally Posted by John_D4
Question is, can you supply ~100KVA on a suitably braked trailer with a wet GTM of under 3.2kkg including 12 hours of fuel?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombie
Ok, you’re probably right, 80KVA would do. Does that leave room for a camper?
Who am I kidding, I need solar panels and a wind turbine. Is “green” after all.
Yep, we have them. 100KVA prime rated with 300 litres of diesel (around 17 hours @ 100% load) - 2,350kg for a standard silenced unit and 2,950kg for a super silent unit. Both legal and tow well. [emoji16][emoji106]Quote:
Originally Posted by BradC
Super silent unit shown below on the back on my Hilux. You need a quote? [emoji38]
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Maybe. I'm starting to think there is money to be made as an EV rescue vehicle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homestar
Have a look at Hoovies latest vlog and you will see the complexity of the Lightning as he pulls some of the covers off with the Car Wizard.
2 cooling systems etc.
I don't believe that Ford can successfully make something so complex reliable judging by their recent engineering efforts.
BTW the headline about 70000 orders is not impressive. That equates to say 7000 orders for a new model in Australia. In the halcyon days of Ford Australia we used to exceed that number easily for a new falcon model.
I don't think the number is particularly impressive, what is impressive is doing it in one day. What is less impressive is that their lack of manufacturing capacity for it made them shut the order book after one day.
I've been telling the boss we should sticker one up with some green leaf branding and stick a 100KW fast charger on the drawbar and hire it as a mobile charging station for events, etc... [biggrin][bigwhistle]Quote:
Originally Posted by BradC
Why would they think it would be any different to that outcome when pulling a 2.7 tonne trailer? The math isn't difficult if you have an understanding of EV's - there's plenty of info out there on this.
If you know 3 of the following you can work the forth out
D - Distance (x100)
B - Usable battery size in KWH
W - Total Weight in tonnes
P - KWH per tonne per 100KM - This is close to 10 for larger vehicles - there's info on line about this - it's fairly constant between 2 and 8 tonnes so I'll use 10 for this equation.
The vehicle is 2,950Kg on its own so lets say 5,800Kg with trailer and driver. With a 98KWH battery pack (that's the usable capacity for this car) I would have worked out its range to be 168KM so 104 Miles minus inefficiencies (ie driver behavior, terrain, etc) - around 10% so 94 miles calculated - not far off what they got.
B=PxWxD so D=B/(PxW) so D=98/(10x5.8) = 1.68x100 = 168KM
Ford claim 230 miles for this vehicle so lets work that out based on the above
D=98/(10x2.95) = 332KM or 206 miles - considering OEM's always claim more than can be obtained in reality, the calculation works.
I get where he's coming from - that's not going to cut it for much, but if you are aware of what you have and can work a calculator, he could have been surprises and ****ed off before the trip, not looking around frantically for a charging station.
If more people understood what they were buying and some of the smoke and mirrors were removed, the whole industry would be a lot better off.
I was doing that for a post in EV General chatQuote:
Originally Posted by Homestar
Its interesting as Large EV Mining trucks at "246.56t " must use a LOT of battery to get out of a deep mining pit. BHP/CAT doing it is going to be amazing to watch. The details I can find are a bit thin which is frustrating. I have asked the nice BHP shareholder contact for a few details on the battery size/ recharging and load size reduction due to the battery weight.
Back on topic the 86 miles on the F150ev with the van. It is a good starting point- Not nearly enough of course. My quirky MG gets more than 138km but a lot less than WPTL and clearly not a towing option[bigrolf]
