70,000 Orders for Electric F100 in first week.

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

I was doing that for a post in EV General chat

Its interesting as Large EV Mining trucks at "246.56t " must use a LOT of battery to get out of a deep mining pit. BHP/CAT doing it is going to be amazing to watch. The details I can find are a bit thin which is frustrating. I have asked the nice BHP shareholder contact for a few details on the battery size/ recharging and load size reduction due to the battery weight.

Back on topic the 86 miles on the F150ev with the van. It is a good starting point- Not nearly enough of course. My quirky MG gets more than 138km but a lot less than WPTL and clearly not a towing option[bigrolf]

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Not sure what their KWH/T/KM is but if we say 10 like a small truck, then you'd need around 100,000KWH to do 30KM which would get you down and up a pit once on a large site, twice on a smaller site. Assuming these trucks would have a battery swap type system. What I don't get is a lot of large mines are powered by huge diesel generator farms, so it seems like a backward step to do away with the diesel engine on the truck and charge the battery off essentially the same engine somewhere else with extra losses in the system.

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Originally Posted by Homestar

Not sure what their KWH/T/KM is but if we say 10 like a small truck, then you'd need around 100,000KWH to do 30KM which would get you down and up a pit once on a large site, twice on a smaller site. Assuming these trucks would have a battery swap type system. What I don't get is a lot of large mines are powered by huge diesel generator farms, so it seems like a backward step to do away with the diesel engine on the truck and charge the battery off essentially the same engine somewhere else with extra losses in the system.

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Fully agree its is odd IF it is diesel generator farm to charge the batteries. Gold Fields a big South African gold company is saving a bucket load of cash by not using diesel generators at some of its sites. Just the huge cost of shifting 1000s of tonnes of diesel to remote sites is significant. The Price we pay by a factor of ??? 5 times plus at some remote mine places.

It is not just about C02[thumbsupbig] 20,000 solar panel plans for BHP as some sites 51000 at another[bigwhistle]
"Leinster Nickel Operation in the Northern Goldfields. By the end of 2022, over 20,000 solar panels will be installed at this site alone, helping to power BHP Nickel West’s mining and concentrating operations at Leinster.
At Mt Keith Operation there are even more - with over 51,000 solar panels going in" that is a BIT of the power needed not all of it!

Once or twice in and out of a mine pit is really not enough I suspect. The Load per trip is a key, IF battery is 10-20 tonnes that comes out of the load the tuck can carry. The regerative braking might recover 10-20% of the energy on the trip back down of course. That may be for both FCEV and BEV.


"Mining group BHP and construction equipment manufacturer Caterpillar have signed an agreement to electrify BHP’s entire truck fleet at the Escondida copper mine in Chile. The first Caterpillar 798 AC electric dump trucks are to be delivered in the second half of 2023."

BHP seems to be in with Komatsu as well as Cat.

"Komatsu forms alliance to decarbonise mining trucks"


Not happening yesterday of course. Nor is my Disco replacement or Refit[thumbsupbig]

Be interesting if they can make the garbage truck - A lot quieter [biggrin]

Suspect the prices are Introductory and very high at present.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6xudMJM1yc&t=1s

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