Thread: Hyundai Ends Development of Internal Combustion Engines

Originally Posted by goingbush

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Hyundai Motor Group Shuts Down Engine Development Center


It wasn't too long ago that people on here scoffed at the idea when I suggested Internal Combustion Engine development would be phased out in the next few years.

its beginning sooner than I thought, Chrysler is about the only motor company with no (public) plans for EV.

http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html

Next environmental challenge is about to ramp up

Originally Posted by goingbush

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Hyundai Motor Group Shuts Down Engine Development Center


It wasn't too long ago that people on here scoffed at the idea when I suggested Internal Combustion Engine development would be phased out in the next few years.

its beginning sooner than I thought, Chrysler is about the only motor company with no (public) plans for EV.

http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html

It's OK for the South Koreans. They have nukes delivering nearly 30% of energy to their grid. Here, not so much.

maybe Chrysler may once again produce cars for the Australian long roads......everyone else is bailing out....

what happens if Singapore reduces its refinery production?

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

maybe Chrysler may once again produce cars for the Australian long roads......everyone else is bailing out....

what happens if Singapore reduces its refinery production?

Ahh no to that,

https://www.carscoops.com/2021/11/ch...ralian-market/

Can’t seem to get the link to work.

If they have to no doubt they will use another manufacturers IC engines.

Originally Posted by scarry

Can’t seem to get the link to work.

If they have to no doubt they will use another manufacturers IC engines.

They have before. Centralised IC manufacturing will increase, allowing Feel good announcements such as that we see now from Hyundai. You'll note that they haven't announced discontinuing IC models...

I'm far more interested in their hydrogen developments, although it seems they've lost their bottle on that front. If true, it's seriously disappointing.

Hyundai Reportedly Halts Development Of Hydrogen Technology

Originally Posted by Tins

They have before. Centralised IC manufacturing will increase, allowing Feel good announcements such as that we see now from Hyundai. You'll note that they haven't announced discontinuing IC models...

I'm far more interested in their hydrogen developments, although it seems they've lost their bottle on that front. If true, it's seriously disappointing.

Hyundai Reportedly Halts Development Of Hydrogen Technology

They can run out the existing ICE designs as long as they meet emissions regs, then switch to the Kia engines if they are separate development teams (being common ownership) . Or maybe there is a big switch coming to focus on electrics and no more ICE model development ?

We'll all find out in a very short few years I suspect.

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

maybe Chrysler may once again produce cars for the Australian long roads......everyone else is bailing out....

what happens if Singapore reduces its refinery production?

I'm presuming that the departure of Chrysler doesn't include that Fiat-Chrysler owned company, Jeep?

Meanwhile,
Hydrogen fuel cell vs Battery-Electric vehicles in Australia: Tech Explained

(There's a more recent article in Wheels magazine, but it's not online yet).
Key points with that are: hydrogen can be used in ICE engines (as modified)
* but it produces Nitrous Oxide (NO3) (nasty)
* and hydrogen is hard to handle
* and if carbon is used to produce hydrogen - uh, duh?
And the big winner with BEVs (including [theoretically, eventually] Hydrogen fuel-cell - [I don't fully understand this tech]) is their running costs. Even at today's inflated prices, BEVs break even at 10 years just on maintenance costs - many fewer moving parts.
And renewables have been cheaper than fossil fuels at producing electricity for a couple of years now. The big thing is balancing/stabilising the electricity network. NSW leads the charge (sic) here - my PHD daughter works in that area.