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    Forget hydrogen, go for methane, I am still trying to work out an effective way of bottling it as my wife figures I produce enough of it to run a small fleet of vehicles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crash View Post
    Forget hydrogen, go for methane, I am still trying to work out an effective way of bottling it as my wife figures I produce enough of it to run a small fleet of vehicles.
    Yeah, Cranny can be a world leader

    I still havnt seen any actual proof that this works.

    I still think that with a modified mixture and enough HHO then you may get a good result but it is the "is it worth it" question that gets me every time.

    There are so many of them about, Ive been hearing about them for the past 15years of working as a mechanic and I have read stories about them from back in the 60's.

    They didnt work then but people are still building exactly the same thing and claiming that now they have it right.

    There are at least more realists in this thread than the last.

    Hey JC, most of us already have a bomb hanging off the front of our car.

    Ladas and I spoke about it once apon a time and I had never thought about it.

    The Aircon condenser has not only a compressed flamable gas but is also mixed with oil which is also flamable particularly under pressure.

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    Shouldn't this Thread be in the Alternative Energy section, Regards Frank.

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    Hydrogen gas

    There are a few sites on the net selling hydrogen kits or how to do it instructions, they tend to read like scams. A bloke in Victoria was written up in the RACV mag. I rang him, his kit was available for about $400 something. I didn't go any further. Kits are supposed to do petrol or disel. The gases hydrogen & oxygen are induced in to the air intake, it is supposed to help get a better bang out of your fuel and supposedly you get fantastic klms out of a litre of fuel. Interesting. The process has been around for a long time and the gas produced is also known as Browns Gas after an early experimenter. I think Browns gas does get used in some sort of Welding process or other. Good Luck I would like to hear more, please keep us up to date.Derek

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post
    Shouldn't this Thread be in the Alternative Energy section, Regards Frank.
    This thread existed long before the AE section.

    IMHO it would be best to restrict the AE section to real stuff that actually works.


    Quote Originally Posted by crash View Post
    Forget hydrogen, go for methane, I am still trying to work out an effective way of bottling it as my wife figures I produce enough of it to run a small fleet of vehicles.
    Methane (Biogas) is an underrated energy source... Apparently about 10% of NT's CO2e emissions come from camels!!!

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    err.................................rubbish
    Just pulled out my ASTRAL manual
    12V at 1 amp = upto 50 grams per hour, Diesel out of the pump has 2-5 grams per liter added. Hardly a power station.

    check it out for your self

    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteD3 View Post
    err.................................rubbish.

    Two things:

    First, the energy required to separate hydrogen from water is huge, you're talking power stations, not alternators!

    Second, if it was so simple, we'd all be doing it.

    A good article can be found here.

    Water Powered Cars Will Never Work | EcoGeek | Water, Energy, Car, Hydrogen, These

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    Quote Originally Posted by clean32 View Post
    err.................................rubbish
    Just pulled out my ASTRAL manual
    12V at 1 amp = upto 50 grams per hour, Diesel out of the pump has 2-5 grams per liter added. Hardly a power station.

    check it out for your self
    In the other hydrogen thread you were talking about adding Hydrogen to Diesel.

    Now Im a bit confused and Im not having a go but is it possible as I was under the impression that hydrogen is a gas and diesel is a liquid and unless it is extremely cold or under pressure hydrogen will stay a gas?

    Im actually asking if this is possible as I dont actually know, Im not having a go in any way at all.

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    spot on pat

    Correct if we have exceeded our oil stocks potential as described, and i do not doubt this ( as man's greed is amazing ) then if we now sell our gas guzzlers in an attempt to stem the flow it's all a bit late in the day.
    I use b100 but am aware that when oil goes then its game over and every backyard will have a different kind of horsepower ...keeping the grass low.
    we are such consumers in this day and age and totally obsessed by money, i think we may well get served our just desserts in the next 30 odd years.
    And Pat is it not scary that:
    ''I personally think that from now on we will have a mix of fuels to power the world as nothing is as good as what we have now,that is why we use it''.
    How good is it going to be when our vehicles have the front cut out to the bulk head to accommodate a horses **** lol,

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