No turning lights in D4 bi-xenons

[Graeme]

I've discovered that there are no static turning lights in the bi-xenons in my D4 SE contrary to the Oz specs. There is only a plastic silver dome where the bulb is supposed to be.

Does anyone else have the globes or have they been omitted from all Oz D4 bi-xenon lights?

[p38arover]

Do you mean turn indicators (blinkers/flashers)?

[rmp]

Do you mean adaptive lights? Not all xenons are adaptive.

[Graeme]

Sorry, they are called cornerning lights. They are lit when the blinker is on and perhaps some other conditions such as only up to a specific speed. They are used to see right or left as appropriate when about to turn into a driveway etc and can be useful in the bush. They are located within the headlight assembly and below the blinker.
They are not related to adaptive headlights that follow the direction of travel.

[Jamo]

Graeme, if it's the same as the D3 as far as I'm aware, the static cornering lights are only available with the 'bright package' and/or active headlights

[Graeme]

Specs says std for D4 SE. SE has bi-xenons, puddle lights, footwell lights and fog lights which IIRC made-up the D3 bright pack.

[gghaggis]

In the D3, the cornering lights are only available with the adaptive bi-xenon headlights, not the std bi-xenons. It requires the adaptive xenon loom, which is one of the headaches involved in upgrading the bi-xenons to an adaptive set.

So is the D4 fitted with the adaptive loom?

Cheers,

Gordon

[Graeme]

I have no way of knowing if the adaptive loom is fitted or not, although there seems to be a lot more wires than necessary.

The latest 4x4 Australia D3/D4 comparison article also lists the cornering lights as standard for the SE. The report says My Disco 3 SE came with optional bi-xenon lights, but they're now standard on the SE and they incorporate cornering beams. The new beams were noticeably broader than the Disco 3's, even when driving straight ahead. The author must be referring to the cornering beams due to the final phrase.

Is it possible that the halogen high beam alignment issue with a few vehicles (incl mine) is related and that the headlight assemblies are for another market that requires excessively low-set dipped beams and that market also misses out on the cornering lamps?

[sniegy]

Cornering lights were only available with the adaptive units.
Again as the D3 was launched the info in the brochure was incorrect.
Having just read the brochure again i can see what you are saying Graeme.
But i think again the D4 will be without the cornering lights unless you get the adaptive units which incorporate this globe/wiring & a different harness to it.

HTH.

[Graeme]

There is a possibility that the writer has mistakingly thought the SE has cornering lights even though he states that the bi-xenons with corning lights are standard with the 3.0 engine as he also states that the 2 D4s tested were both SEs yet one had the 5.0 engine. The pictures of headlights in the article are not particularly conclusive but when compared with mine from the same angle, my plastic silver bubble is clearly visible and it is not in the pictures.

I'd like to know if any other D4 owners with the non-adaptive bi-xenons have globes in the cornering lamps? They are easy to see.

[Graeme]

In the D3, the cornering lights are only available with the adaptive bi-xenon headlights, not the std bi-xenons. It requires the adaptive xenon loom, which is one of the headaches involved in upgrading the bi-xenons to an adaptive set.

So is the D4 fitted with the adaptive loom?

Cheers,

Gordon
No canbus twisted pairs in my wiring loom so no adaptive wiring installed.

The D3 wiring schematics show that the cornering lamps have nothing to do with the adaptive or non-adaptive headlight schematics. The D3 cornerning lights are powered by a red wire which exists in my vehicle although I have not tested it for power. My D4 has 1 extra wire than a non-adaptive D3, which could be to power the LEDs.

Perhaps the red cornering light power wire in the D3 was part of the adaptive harness, or perhaps LR did not install the globe, socket or wires to the headlight connector in the non-adaptive lights, or both.

[stig0000]

yes there are d4s with "adaptive lights", and i think hse its standed,,, and SE its option, and 2.7tdv6 se its not even a option, they dont even have the led side lights;)

[Jamo]

They must have something to do with the adaptive lights. IIRC the corner lights would only come on when the adaptives had started to turn. Therefore, the system must have linked their operation to that of the adaptives. Either that or it's linked to the steering angle sensor.

[Graeme]

The wiring schematic shows the cornering lamps are triggered by the blinkers and the steering angle sensor. I thought I read some time ago that there's a speed limit too.

[Jesse B]

Graeme - sorry, been away for a while so have only just caught up with this thread. Just been out to check my D4 SE - it appears I too have the silver cap thingy rather than a live globe of any kind. Started it up, put it onto full lock, turned on headlights (tried high and low beams), put on indicator (same direction as wheels) - and no action at all.

Seems like either a furphy in the info, or perhaps (as you suggested) may be related to the danged halogen high-beam issue. Which reminds me, I asked my dealer to check with LRA re this matter a few days ago - response was "no fix being provided; still not recognised as a problem - vehicle passed ADR's so must be okay..." :eek:

[Graeme]

The wiring exists in mine but doesn't get any power so I assume they need enabling as well as the globes etc. Seems the same in the UK so must be an incorrect specification. One day I'll check to see if the globes fit directly into the reflectors or need an holder.

The headlight aim issue has been found in th eUK with some vehicles but not others in both the standard bi-xenons and the adaptive ones. I suspect LR UK will soon be well aware of the problem, if not already.

[AnD3rew]

I asked my dealer to check with LRA re this matter a few days ago - response was "no fix being provided; still not recognised as a problem - vehicle passed ADR's so must be okay..." :eek:

Sounds like the LRA I know and Love:twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted::twisted:

I wonder if they have any appreciation at all how furiously angry this dumb refusal to acknowlege obvious problems is, I have experienced it on a number of ocassions before

[roamer]

LRA also do not acknownledge that the suspension on a D4 takes over
2 mins to get to height on 2nd operation,( if it doesn't overheat first,)
as being a problem, because some others take that long as well.
Lucky toyota didn't think the same about there brakes :o

[AnD3rew]

I still remember the shock and incredulity I experienced when they told me the reason they didn't issue a recall on the 300TDi's with a timing belt problem was that it was not a life threatening issue.

This was after mine two weeks out of warranty blew the timing belt seizing the engine and locking all four wheels and bringing me to a screaming halt on a busy road. Tow days before that I had driven from Melbourne to Brisbane and I hate to think what would have happened if it had done that whilst overtaking a road train at 100Kph at 2am.

Before we got to that point they initially denied it was a known problem until I found out from a mate who new a dealer service guy that not only ha dthe service guys been told to watch for rubber pieces in the oil when changing, but that there was a pulley wheel fix kit made to correct the unknown problem.

When I presented this to them they finally agreed to fix under warranty.

[gps-au]

When I presented this to them they finally
agreed to fix under warranty.

Did they compensate you for the flat spots on your tyres as well ?? :angel:









buckleys :Rolling:

[AnD3rew]

buckleys is right, got nothing for the stains in my pants either