View Full Version : Coils spacers, where do they go.
Riceburner
18th March 2010, 01:58 PM
I have 50 mm coil spacers that I want to fit. Do they go at the top or bottom? I see a plate at the bottom keeping the spring centered do the fit uner there and would I need longer bolts to secure them?
Franz
18th March 2010, 02:39 PM
I have 50 mm coil spacers that I want to fit. Do they go at the top or bottom? I see a plate at the bottom keeping the spring centered do the fit uner there and would I need longer bolts to secure them?
They go on top of the spring.
Jim621
18th March 2010, 04:15 PM
I have 50 mm coil spacers that I want to fit. Do they go at the top or bottom? I see a plate at the bottom keeping the spring centered do the fit uner there and would I need longer bolts to secure them?
Mate - they go at the top of the coil.
Do you understand how they work and what they will do to the handling and 4wding capability of the car?
Slunnie
18th March 2010, 04:52 PM
The plastic donut looking ones go at the top.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
The metal block looking ones go at the bottom under the spring perch.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/566.jpg
Riceburner
18th March 2010, 04:55 PM
Ah, mine dont look like the red ones more like the bottom ones. I am just fitting them to compensate for my new Tyres. 245/75/16 Maxxis.
Slunnie
18th March 2010, 05:19 PM
Ah ok. Those pictured look like they replace the lower perch. There are also some that space between the axle and the perch.
Shaker
18th March 2010, 10:09 PM
I fitted rear 30mm spacers on to a 2" lift to compensate for rear drawers etc, & haven't been happy with the way the vehicle drives since.
Slunnie
18th March 2010, 10:20 PM
I fitted rear 30mm spacers on to a 2" lift to compensate for rear drawers etc, & haven't been happy with the way the vehicle drives since.
why?
bluelightdisco
19th March 2010, 11:58 AM
The plastic donut looking ones go at the top.
http://www.4wd1.com/images/coil-spring-spacers.jpg
The metal block looking ones go at the bottom under the spring perch.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2010/04/566.jpg
G'day slunnie i have not seen the metal ones before do they raise the lower spring mounts ? if so where do you buy these? am very interested:cool:
Shaker
19th March 2010, 12:41 PM
why?
Hard to explain, but I'll give it a go .....
Ever since I fitted the spacers, the vehicle feels "airy fairy", almost as if the rear is on a jelly, doesn't seem to track as well & feels as if you need to compensate a lot of the time too.
See, it wasn't easy, using the term "jelly" is maybe a bit of an exaggeration, but it sort of describes it.
Slunnie
19th March 2010, 06:13 PM
G'day slunnie i have not seen the metal ones before do they raise the lower spring mounts ? if so where do you buy these? am very interested:cool:
Those ones are from Rovertym Engineering in USA. I think they replace the lower perch. I have seen others that space the perch, but I'm not sure where...
Slunnie
19th March 2010, 06:14 PM
Hard to explain, but I'll give it a go .....
Ever since I fitted the spacers, the vehicle feels "airy fairy", almost as if the rear is on a jelly, doesn't seem to track as well & feels as if you need to compensate a lot of the time too.
See, it wasn't easy, using the term "jelly" is maybe a bit of an exaggeration, but it sort of describes it.
When I lifted mine it did similar. I lengthened the swaybar axle links on the rear and it fixed that.
georgesadlik
19th March 2010, 06:51 PM
You could also try these guys, they do spacers and a few other bits.
Land Rover Discovery Series II 1999.5-2004 Suspension Lift Kits (http://www.toddcosuspensions.com/2larodiiisul.html)
I made my own from discs i had cut from solid 100mm round bar to 30mm sections. Your bigger steal merchants can help with this. It cost about $20 each and then you need to drill the bolt holes. I also had a mate turn them on a lathe just to dress them up a bit then just painted them black.
Cheers
George.
Urban Panzer
25th March 2010, 01:07 AM
I fitted rear 30mm spacers on to a 2" lift to compensate for rear drawers etc, & haven't been happy with the way the vehicle drives since.
Surely this would be due to the fact the front is not lifted, so imo the back will feel "light" as you describe. This is exactly why the D2 with SLS will not let you drive it in the extended mode over 18mph.
Your best bet would be to fit the same on the front as well, even a 30mm spacer will probably only take out a lot of the sag the front springs have suffered anyway, and only lifting the back will just accelerate that issue even more.
Shaker
25th March 2010, 07:35 AM
Surely this would be due to the fact the front is not lifted, so imo the back will feel "light" as you describe. This is exactly why the D2 with SLS will not let you drive it in the extended mode over 18mph.
Your best bet would be to fit the same on the front as well, even a 30mm spacer will probably only take out a lot of the sag the front springs have suffered anyway, and only lifting the back will just accelerate that issue even more.
My suspension is comparatively new, the only reason I fitted spacers to the rear, was to compensate for the rear drawers & fridge in the back.
bluelightdisco
25th March 2010, 04:00 PM
okay mayby a silly question but Are the metal spacers that slunnie posted a pic of, are they legal for road use and also do they require a engineers cert? or is it just simply bolt on and forget?
ADMIRAL
25th March 2010, 10:45 PM
I fitted rear 30mm spacers on to a 2" lift to compensate for rear drawers etc, & haven't been happy with the way the vehicle drives since.
If the vehicle dropped that far, you need a rerated coil not a spacer. The extra weight has probably reduced the available spring travel, even though the vehicle height has been restored artificially by spacing the coil seat.
Shaker
26th March 2010, 07:38 AM
If the vehicle dropped that far, you need a rerated coil not a spacer. The extra weight has probably reduced the available spring travel, even though the vehicle height has been restored artificially by spacing the coil seat.
It did drive well until I fitted the spacers, I am wondering if a heavier sway bar as fitted to the air bag suspension models may help.
Jim621
26th March 2010, 10:16 AM
It did drive well until I fitted the spacers, I am wondering if a heavier sway bar as fitted to the air bag suspension models may help.
A heavier swaybar will only reduce the roll of the vehicle while turning a corner. it doesnt affect ride height.
Steve
Shaker
26th March 2010, 02:56 PM
A heavier swaybar will only reduce the roll of the vehicle while turning a corner. it doesnt affect ride height.
Steve
I am not tryng to increase ride height, I am trying to stop the slight feeling of the vehicle trying to steer from the rear!
Pedro_The_Swift
26th March 2010, 04:25 PM
It did drive well until I fitted the spacers, I am wondering if a heavier sway bar as fitted to the air bag suspension models may help.
This would definately stop it,,
though the price may put you off
Shaker
26th March 2010, 05:51 PM
This would definately stop it,,
though the price may put you off
Do you mean the heavier sway bar would fix it? Or did you mean to put in a link?
Pedro_The_Swift
27th March 2010, 09:18 AM
I meant ACE would stop it.
but the cost might be a touch much.;):p
Jordos D2
27th March 2010, 06:07 PM
i have ironman suspenion 2in lift with the foam cell shocks and i have fitted 30mm coil spacers front & rear i have no complaints it still handles well for a lifted 4wd
Rudolf
27th March 2010, 09:07 PM
i have ironman suspenion 2in lift with the foam cell shocks and i have fitted 30mm coil spacers front & rear i have no complaints it still handles well for a lifted 4wd
So in total the lift is 80mm.
How does the flex look like together with the schocks?
Jordos D2
28th March 2010, 08:18 AM
So in total the lift is 80mm.
How does the flex look like together with the schocks?
it gave me 75mm of lift all up ( a little sag due to weight of d2)
when i got the suspenion kit i got the longer shocks so i have never topped them out (that i know of )
Franz
28th March 2010, 10:27 AM
it gave me 75mm of lift all up ( a little sag due to weight of d2)
when i got the suspenion kit i got the longer shocks so i have never topped them out (that i know of )
Keep an eye on the front spacers, they get chewed out at the top end. Rear's don't seem to suffer that fate. I used 50mm spacers for a while and then just decided to go with custom made springs in the length that I wanted.
The only other thing that I liked about the spacers was that the damped things a bit and the ride become quieter on bumpy roads.
Cheers,
Franz
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