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Disco4SE
17th April 2010, 06:53 AM
Spoke with my Landrover Dealer yesterday and asked him about the Q093 patch. It isnt fully available in Australia as yet, as they are waiting on some parts as part of the patch.
Apparently they did install some of the patches to my disco a few weeks back when they replaced my DVD player. I had no sound at all and after 2 days in at ULR that's what it turned out to be

Scouse
17th April 2010, 06:13 PM
There's a hold up on the batteries at the moment. It can be completed if your car doesn't need a battery though.

Disco4SE
17th April 2010, 07:34 PM
Oh OK. My dealer made out as if there were several parts required?

Scouse
17th April 2010, 07:39 PM
It's mainly software downloads. There might be another 'part' besides the battery but I'd have to double check.
Different VIN ranges have different repairs done too.

sniegy
1st May 2010, 12:11 PM
Hi all,

Carried out the Q093 on my vehicle yesterday.

Things to note..

The Global Open/Global Close function is now activated on the vehicles BCM(Body Control Module)..
(Global Open-Push & hold unlock button on remote & all 4 windows will drop)
(Gobal Close-push & hold the lock button & all 4 windows will close)

BUT

It doesnt turn ON automatially, you need to tell the BCM to turn on Global Open & Global Close functions.
BCM will show on the car config file(CCF) that it is "Enabled".
This does not tell it to work, It just enables the function in the BCM so you will need to go back into the CCF & turn it to "On" & the system will work.

When the Q093 is done you will have Global Open as it is part of the Australian spec of the vehicle.
But now that Global Close is allowed by ADR's for the D4 some people may overlook this.

Cheers.

Neil P
1st May 2010, 03:44 PM
.....But now that Global Close is allowed by ADR's for the D4 some people may overlook this.....



A4's had this in '95 ( well , mine did ..... ) . Was it discontinued
over here for some issue ?

Dorko
1st May 2010, 04:51 PM
I had this update on Wednesday. i had issues with the car not starting and then i had to lock the car and unlock the car to start it. Also the rear windows was not going up the first attempt. And some suspension fault.

They said it was all related to this update.

Working well :)

Dorko

sniegy
1st May 2010, 05:05 PM
A4's had this in '95 ( well , mine did ..... ) . Was it discontinued
over here for some issue ?
Neil,
For some reason & even when the P38 RR was released in 94' it was not allowed to be functional on the LR brand? I questioned this many times & was told that ADR's on these particular vehicles it is not allowed.
I also realise that many other brands BMW, Audi, Mercedes etc this was fine..??:eek::eek::eek:

Cheers

discojames
3rd May 2010, 09:10 PM
Hi,

Just picked up my D4 today. Global open works, but does not Global close. Do I need to get dealer to enable?

sniegy
6th May 2010, 02:30 PM
Discojames,
Firstly Congratulations :)
Just enquire if the Q093 has been done, it may not have been done, as some parts we are still awaiting.
BUT
if it has then it may be just getting into the CCF & turning it on & yes a dealer needs to do this.

Cheers

Phil
16th July 2010, 10:29 AM
I have tried to get our local Brisbane dealer (Austral) to update our D4 HSE with the global closing option, even with sniegy's advice, but they say it is not available, in fact I quote:

"We have been informed by Land Rover Australia that the global closing option is not available in cars for our market.

Hence even if we did perform the procedure you out line below it would not work.

We have asked if this will change and they have advised they will notify us if / when it happens."


I have seen many posts which indicate it is, so can anyone provide specific approval information on the ADR?

Phil.

eddomak
16th July 2010, 06:34 PM
Got my update done today and had requested:



Global Close - "Not allowed to do it in Australia"
km/l instead of l/100km - "Can't do it"

Fixed the window bouncing issue.

Generally driving a lot smoother, and less turbo lag. Definitely recommended.

Neil P
17th July 2010, 06:01 AM
...... but they say it is not available, in fact I quote:

"We have been informed by Land Rover Australia that the global closing option is not available in cars for our market.

Hence even if we did perform the procedure you out line below it would not work.



Phil,

Is the software not in the Aus spec D4 , or is it NOT being enabled
by the Dealer due to a directive/legislation ?

Disomania
18th July 2010, 04:30 PM
Ours was updated before a trip to Tasmania. Now, the 'aux' part of the radio decides to intermittenly not work. Get out of the car, lock the car, unlock, get in, it works. The sensor seems to know when the key is in the car as the above doesn't work from inside.

Ho hum.

Aux input now need fixing.
Rear seat rattle needs fixing
Gear lever needs replacing (known issue where a sensor that's part of the gear leaver mechanism tells the car it's in park AND command shift at the same time so you get a 'gearbox fault')

And, after shopping today, I need to get half the car repainted as some scumbag keyed one of the doors. Being Nara Bronze metallic, they will have to blend the paint over the passenger side of the car. I'd love to catch the scum doing this and....... (I'm calm, I'm calm, I'm calm......)

Graeme
1st August 2010, 06:03 PM
Mine has just had the update done. A gbox s/w update was mentioned but that may have been part of Q093. I like that on light throttle it changes-up sooner although still takes a lot of convincing to drop into 6th at 80kph. The bad shudder that occurred if the throttle was backed-off a bit quickly once up to speed has been cured. Not too many gear changes on the drive home so I'll get a better idea in over the next few days.

LeaRoy
2nd August 2010, 08:31 AM
Is there any way of telling if you have this update? I'm guessing I don't as I have one of the problems listed. Clock keeps resetting to 24hr clock after turning car off.

eddomak
2nd August 2010, 08:50 AM
Is there any way of telling if you have this update? I'm guessing I don't as I have one of the problems listed. Clock keeps resetting to 24hr clock after turning car off.

I had the update 2 weeks ago, and although the clock problem was "fixed" and I tested it in the driveway of the dealership, by that afternoon it seemed to have unfixed itself. Wonder what else can unfix? :eek:

CaverD3
2nd August 2010, 10:37 AM
Sometimes updates don't take, I had to have one re-done once.

eddomak
2nd August 2010, 02:40 PM
Sometimes updates don't take, I had to have one re-done once.
Thanks for that - I called the dealer and checked and they said there is still a bulletin on the clock fix, and no resolution yet. He said the rest of the fixes are separate, so shouldn't need to get re-patched.

disco4me
6th August 2010, 08:33 PM
Hi All.
new to this site but I can advise that the global open and close windows work on my D4 after the Q093 update. Hold the buttons for about 4 seconds and hey presto... I was impressed.

Duck's Guts
7th August 2010, 04:00 AM
The global open works on my D4, but not the global close.
I don't know if I have this update. D4 Feb '10 build, late May'10 delivery.

Celtoid
13th August 2010, 11:27 PM
My Update was done some time ago at Austral in Brisbane and as reported on many posts, they will not enable Global Close.

Am I missing something....why do you need either Global Open or Close?

I have never felt the need to close or open all windows at once.

:confused:

Kev.

Graeme
14th August 2010, 06:52 AM
I have never felt the need to close or open all windows at once.
I occasionally open the driver's window...


CC decrease button held whilst overspeed now doesn't make the vehicle go faster but it seems that pressing the set/increase button whilst overspeed changes the setspeed to the current speed rather than increase it by 1 increment, with the old blast of power when the set button is used. Will the programmers ever get it right?

Celtoid
14th August 2010, 11:16 AM
I occasionally open the driver's window...


CC decrease button held whilst overspeed now doesn't make the vehicle go faster but it seems that pressing the set/increase button whilst overspeed changes the setspeed to the current speed rather than increase it by 1 increment, with the old blast of power when the set button is used. Will the programmers ever get it right?


Yeah I occasionally open that window too....LOL!!!

I'm not a fan of the CC at all.....2kph increments are annoying and the car always seems to be travelling too slow or too fast unless on a perfectly flat road. My Berlina and Pug 307 are much better on the CC front.

sniegy
14th August 2010, 02:21 PM
Ok all,
After playing at work today on a vehicle i have figured out why some work & some dont!

The programming has been changed & global closing does not work anymore.

I have programmed 3 vehicles & all the same, when doing Q093 & telling the CCF that we now have global closing & then re-entering to turn it on.
This now does NOT turn the function on, for whatever reason i am not sure.

It will be a programming function that most likely states that & has always been for LR that it is not compliant to ADR rules.?????

Sorry all.:(

Graeme
18th August 2010, 05:34 AM
I found a not so good change caused by Q093 whereby if a suspension height sensor is unplugged a 'gearbox fault' warning is issued instead of the previous appropriate 'suspension fault' message. That could cause a bit of confusion and concern.