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djhampson
29th April 2010, 06:48 AM
Uh oh....

The FL2 let us down for the first time last night.

My Mum (who I sold the FL2 to) was driving and noticed it had no acceleration and then when she stopped and restarted it there was a message on the screen "Reduced Engine Performance".

RACQ couldn't find anything wrong so we managed to drive it home as it will drive quite happily at any speed it just got no acceleration at all.

Going to get a tow truck to take it into Austral this morning.

101RRS
29th April 2010, 09:38 AM
The ECU has detected a fault and switched to default settings - commonly called limp home mode.

Hopefully just a clear of the codes will fix things or maybe just a dud sensor. Unlikey to be more serious stuff.

I have had it twice on my FL1 - first was a failed fuel temp sensor and the second was some crude in the fuel shutoff valve - the ECU codes pointed me to the right direction in both cases. While the check engine light was on the car drove like a dog bit still ran - not a lot of acceleration.

Garry

Scouse
29th April 2010, 10:26 AM
It could be anything but there's only one bulletin that I could see quickly that might be the problem & it's a software download for the turbo.

Fault code P0234

Yonjuro
29th April 2010, 12:01 PM
I had a similar issue with my Peugeot 407. After the dealer ended up replacing numerous components over a period of time - the actual fault was the battery! It seems that some European cars a battery that is not 100% will cause these types of issues to arise with the ECU.

It was strange that it too so long and so many replaced parts for the mechanics to suss out the actual problem and an easy fix.

This may not be the cause of your problem but it could be worth mentioning to the mechanic?

Good luck,

djhampson
29th April 2010, 02:40 PM
I've only heard this second hand but the problem was with the turbo and it required a software reset.

Sounds like it might have been the issue Scouse mentioned... or possibly what Yonjuro mentioned as a new battery was installed just before the problem appeared.

I'm wondering if when the new battery was being fitted they didn't let the computers shut down fully \ shorted something out they shouldn't have \ didn't perform the correct ritual scarfice to the appropriate gods etc and buggered something up.

Anyway its seems all is good now. :D

101RRS
29th April 2010, 02:43 PM
Anyway its seems all is good now. :D

So you have it back from the mechanic? or it fixed itself?

If at the mech - what did the test book indicate?

Garry

djhampson
29th April 2010, 02:46 PM
Its being picked up this afternoon...

I'll try to find out more info.

djhampson
29th April 2010, 05:28 PM
Well we've got it back but the turbo doesn't sound right at all..

Heres a really bad youtube clip but you can hear the whine of the turbo really clearly and when you back off the revs there is quite a blow off noise...

Is this normal?

YouTube- Freelander 2 Turbo Noise

inside
29th April 2010, 07:32 PM
Mine doesn't sound like that.

Wouldn't be unusual for Austral to have stuffed something up. I swear they never test any of their "fixes".

Dorko
29th April 2010, 10:23 PM
Sounds awesome! hahahha....

i had this on my XR6 turbo... i was driving it pretty had just before i traded it in and i blew off the air intake pipe.

Sounded just like yours!

Dorko

djhampson
4th May 2010, 07:12 AM
The turbo is stuffed apparently... a new turbo is on order. They repalce one of the clips on the solinoid which has stopped the wastegate noises but the turbo whine is still there.

Interestingly... My family own 3 Landies (1 pertrol & 2 TDs) and have replaced two turbos so far.

Has anyone else heard of a TD4 needing a new turbo?

I'm thinking the extended warranty might be a good idea :o

nosliwedaw
4th May 2010, 07:44 PM
Hey DJH, did you have any oil seepage from around the turbo inlet?

I've got this again at the moment after another austral "fix" just getting myself worried now as I only have about a month left of warranty:(

djhampson
4th May 2010, 07:52 PM
I'm not entirely sure. At one service (one that wasn't done by the dealer) the mechanic did find oil on the top of the bash plate which he thought was coming from the pipe between the turbo and the inter cooler.

I got Southside LR to check it at the next service but they weren't concerned. Maybe they should have been...

Are you considering an extended warranty?

stig0000
4th May 2010, 07:55 PM
that it the turbo noise, but its not the right noise, it should be one sharp wisle,, not a flutter,,

most rice boys pay big money for that noise:D:D

djhampson
4th May 2010, 08:03 PM
They've fixed the flutter noise but its still whines quite badly.

In the cabin it sounds like a police car is coming up behind you.

nosliwedaw
4th May 2010, 08:11 PM
I'm not entirely sure. At one service (one that wasn't done by the dealer) the mechanic did find oil on the top of the bash plate which he thought was coming from the pipe between the turbo and the inter cooler.

I got Southside LR to check it at the next service but they weren't concerned. Maybe they should have been...

Are you considering an extended warranty?

I wasn't.....

You know I am really jack of the couldn't care less attitude with anything they consider not to be a big deal, the number of times I have been to those brisbane dealers just to take it back time and time again to have something simple done, then you get the all fixed smile at the end while the problem appears again almost straight away. :angry:

and who do you have to sleep with to get a call back about anything?:eek:

Well i guess I had better report it again and if it does go bang fingers crossed they may cover it out of warranty.

I think you are lucky that there is something clearly wrong or you may have got the timeless "they all do that".

itchynipl
4th May 2010, 08:16 PM
Personally I wouldnt take any vehicle to Austral, I dont think they could diagnose a fault correctly in any vehicle. I have had 2 dealings with them & they have cost me $$$ big time & had to get the work fixed elsewhere. The last issue was to find a leak in one of my ace pipes & they diagnosed incorrectly & saying it would cost approx 5G to fix when actually it only cost $300 and a drive up the coast to fix.

Now I only go to Rover Care at Slacks Creek or British Off Road up the sunny coast.

I have never heard one good word about Austral (even their Honda or Volvo counterpart).

Go somewhere else that is a Land Rover specialist that has a good words on here is my advice.