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CSBrisie
12th May 2010, 05:45 PM
Guys, I'm a bit confused re above and current availability; Barbagallo Tyres in Perth (owned by Barbagallo LandRover dealership) tell me they just grabbed 62 MTR's, ie all they could get in Oz, (I saw them in the shop) and they retail them at $495; they are NOT "Kevlar ones" (their words). In Adelaide I have been quoted $575 fitted - by the guys at Goodyear is checking if these are Kevlar or not (he has 5 in stock - that's all he can get in Adelaide.

So, are there two types of MTR Wrangler? Kevlar and Non? Have they stopped making one or both types?

Any help appreciated

cheers

Chris

Fish78
12th May 2010, 06:28 PM
Yes, i have been told Goodyear make the Wrangler in 2 specs as well.

I recently got a set of Muddies for my Bravo, had a look at most brands and decision came down to the Goodyear's (kevlar) or a set of Mickey Thompson MTZs, i went with the MTZs.

In my opinion the MTZs are a far better off road tyre, side wall has more flex and tread has better self cleaning.

Only other Mud orientated tyre i wanted but couldn't get a look at was the new BFG KM2, none in my town, dealer said BFG too much trouble to deal with lol.

What size are you looking at, i was quoted $320 fitted each for Wrangler Kevlar, 31X10.50R15LT, got the mickeys for $290 each.

http://www.goodyear.ca/goodyeartireselector/results_tire.jsp'mrktarea=Light+Truck

Graeme
12th May 2010, 06:50 PM
The 19" MTRs are the old style and are passenger construction. All other MTRs are the new style / pattern with Kevlar in the sidewalls and all are LT construction.

Scouse
13th May 2010, 08:06 AM
Guys, I'm a bit confused re above and current availability; Barbagallo Tyres in Perth (owned by Barbagallo LandRover dealership) tell me they just grabbed 62 MTR's, ie all they could get in Oz, (I saw them in the shop) and they retail them at $495; they are NOT "Kevlar ones" (their words). These are quite possibly old stock tyres that LR Aust recently sold off cheaply.

It might pay to check the manufacture date if you decide to go with them.
I just bought a set of MTRs in 235/85/16 this way & the tyres are about 3-4 YO.

gghaggis
13th May 2010, 08:58 AM
The older-style (non-Kevlar) MTR's are the tyres the dealers have access to. They are apparently ceasing production of these at some point this year (maybe have already?). The price from Goodyear is around $575 per tyre, the dealers are selling them at discount.

The Kevlar MTR's are not available in a 19" rim size, at least not yet.

Cheers,

Gordon

CSBrisie
13th May 2010, 09:46 AM
OK, so I cant get the LT construction tyres then - in Australia? Were the Landrover G4 Challenge tyres the LT ones? I wonder if I can get Kevlar ones out of USA?

gghaggis
13th May 2010, 09:53 AM
OK, so I cant get the LT construction tyres then - in Australia? Were the Landrover G4 Challenge tyres the LT ones? I wonder if I can get Kevlar ones out of USA?

No, the G4's use the non-kevlar tyre (no 19" kevlars, even in the USA).

Cheers,

Gordon

gps-au
13th May 2010, 03:03 PM
OK, so I cant get the LT construction tyres then - in Australia? Were the Landrover G4 Challenge tyres the LT ones? I wonder if I can get Kevlar ones out of USA?

Interesting question.

Speak to you local "KMart" tyre place, seems they will order from the US. Had a friend wanted Kevlar for his 4wd (non LR) and the only place which would get what he wanted was Kmart (in cairns actually... where he is based).

TDV6
13th May 2010, 05:18 PM
I was getting some mods done to my caravan today and questioned the boys regarding the Goodyear Silent Armour's they fit to the latest ATV's and Top Enders and was told this lot only had Kevlar under the tread, none in the sidewall, to get the kevlar in both sidewall and tread I would have to get the MTR's.

So the question is. is kevlar only under the tread or in sidewall as well?

Ryall

Neil P
13th May 2010, 05:52 PM
...the tyres are about 3-4 YO.

Isn't it illegal to retail tyres over 24 months since manufacture.
Four year old are fit for the bin .................

Graeme
13th May 2010, 06:30 PM
So the question is. is kevlar only under the tread or in sidewall as well?
Sidewall only in the MTRs, tread only in the SAs.

CSBrisie
17th May 2010, 08:01 AM
Well, I settled on 5 MTR's at $495 each PLUS 5 19inch rims at $295each - off a Range Rover Sport 2009 model that someone was blinging up with 22's (!). All from Barbagallo Tyres in Osborne Park WA (they also run one of two WA Landrover Dealerships hence why they have 60 odd MTR's in stock and a range of wheels (2nd hand) available if you want a second set.

Shipping from Perth to Adelaide with Hunter Express was $175 which is pretty good door tro door for the weight of 5 wheels and tyres.

So, the new D4 with e-diff and MTR's should be able to keep up with most things - and certainly GGHaggis RRS (!)

cheers

gghaggis
17th May 2010, 10:30 AM
So, the new D4 with e-diff and MTR's should be able to keep up with most things - and certainly GGHaggis RRS (!)

cheers

You might need um, one or two more mods to do that .... ;)

Cheers,

Gordon

Graeme
17th May 2010, 07:43 PM
The older-style (non-Kevlar) MTR's are the tyres the dealers have access to. They are apparently ceasing production of these at some point this year (maybe have already?)....The Kevlar MTR's are not available in a 19" rim size, at least not yet.
Do you know something or are you just being hopeful?

gghaggis
18th May 2010, 09:25 AM
Do you know something or are you just being hopeful?

If you're referring to the last comment - "at least not yet" - then yes, I'm just being hopeful. If General Tires can jump on the 19" bandwagon, you'd expect others to follow at some stage.

Cheers,

Gordon

CSBrisie
18th May 2010, 12:58 PM
[QUOTE=gghaggis;1253522]You might need um, one or two more mods to do that .... ;)

Yes, I see where this is going - I need rock sliders, transmission guard, compressor plate......;)

I have a feeling we will be talking soon....!:D

rmp
18th May 2010, 07:34 PM
The older-style (non-Kevlar) MTR's are the tyres the dealers have access to. They are apparently ceasing production of these at some point this year (maybe have already?). The price from Goodyear is around $575 per tyre, the dealers are selling them at discount.

The Kevlar MTR's are not available in a 19" rim size, at least not yet.

Cheers,

Gordon

This is correct. For all those convinced there will be a good supply of offroad tyres in 19" -- take note of this discontinued line. Goodyear only did it for the G4 Challenge and the exposure, not because they thought it would be a volume seller and clearly the commercials haven't supported continuing the line.

I think more tyres in that size will come, but not as quickly as the 17s which were driven by the likes of the Prado 120 followed by Pajero and others, a far greater market than 3.0 D3s. I don't see those cars going to 19" minimum any time soon, some come stock with 18s but they take 17s.

All LR G4 cars had these tyres fitted and their are a stronger P construction not LT.

CSBrisie
18th May 2010, 07:41 PM
Oh, I hadn't realised that (P construction versus LT) - thanks for the info!

rmp
18th May 2010, 07:48 PM
Oh, I hadn't realised that (P construction versus LT) - thanks for the info!

Yes, but not all Ps are equal. There's the very thin high-speed tyre and the all-terrain...may be both classed as P but quite different strengths and puncture resistance. Look also for XL construction which is P for Extra Load. In other words don't write off a tyre just because it's not LT.