Can you fit a front middle seat to a Puma ?

[NOZ]

Can you fit a front middle seat to a Puma ?

eg: take out the cubby box and replace it with a seat.


I have done this in my 2002 Defender and have a chance of getting a new Defender as a company car but it depnds on the 6th seat.


Any help here please would be appreciated :D

[JDNSW]

Structurally they are, I'm pretty certain, the same in that area as the 2002. So the problem is legality - you would need to talk to an engineer who can approve modifications.

John

[haggisbasher]

Went through this in Vic.....

Can do if it is for a child under 34kgs, no engineer and legal. I did just that as the seats that were there were only for kids anyway.

If it were to acommodate an adult it throws up all forms of complications.

I spoke to Landrover, and in older 'Fenders they were a factory option so approved over here (again only for under 34kgs)

Cheers

Chris

[NOZ]

I could get it engineered I guess, but I seems like a big hassle.

I have contacted John Craddock in the UK and says its not available to purchase.

[Scallops]

Heya Noz - You can, of course, order the Defender as a 7 seater though. (2 extra seats in the back). ;)

[land864]

Hey Noz

I may have a relatively new Exmoor Trim centre seat coming up for sale soon.

Keep me posted if you're interested.

Pete G

[NOZ]

Heya Noz - You can, of course, order the Defender as a 7 seater though. (2 extra seats in the back). ;)


Yes but I was trying to get the 110 dual cab ute as a company vehicle )no FBT) and still beable to have a 6 seater

[NOZ]

Hey Noz

I may have a relatively new Exmoor Trim centre seat coming up for sale soon.

Keep me posted if you're interested.

Pete G


Do you know if it would fit a new PUMA ?

[land864]

Honestly , I don't know:confused:

But I hope to have it this weekend and can measure and email you pics if you want:)

[isuzurover]

Can you fit a front middle seat to a Puma ?

eg: take out the cubby box and replace it with a seat.


I have done this in my 2002 Defender and have a chance of getting a new Defender as a company car but it depnds on the 6th seat.


Any help here please would be appreciated :D

In QLD, any change to seating capacity, belts, mounts etc needs to be inspected by an approved officer and blue plated.

When I last did it the cost was <$100.

Are the fines worse for a company vehicle with non-approved modifications???

[NOZ]

In QLD, any change to seating capacity, belts, mounts etc needs to be inspected by an approved officer and blue plated.

When I last did it the cost was <$100.

Are the fines worse for a company vehicle with non-approved modifications???


I would get it blue plated and the cost these days is is over $200

[frantic]

Noz another suggestion, if your trying to get it as a company write off have a think about a 3 door 110 wagon and get 4 forward facing individual seats put in the rear along the sides in 2 rows? Would this avoid fbt as it's a 2 door van ? The defender 110 (both 4and 2 door)wagon has a 1t payload(1050 from memory) but this does not qualify to avoid fbt?

[Gav110]

Mulgo was just investigating this for me. Apparently it requires getting a crash test performed if it is to be legal ! The seats themselves can be ordered (with 3 point belts) from Exmoor Trim. Daniel - leave it to you to add the detail...

[Mulgo]

Thanks Gavin for the intro :)

The motor vehicle engineer I normally use for getting my conversions signed off explained that, because it is not a LR factory option any more it would not be approved unless you put a vehicle through a crash test - which seems to me a bit drastic.

At the same time he said that the after market seats manufactured in the UK are not up to AUS standards. The legislations in the UK are not as strict as the ones over here.

But as we all know every state has different rules when it comes to approving vehicle modifications.

Cheers,
Daniel

[abaddonxi]

Thanks Gavin for the intro :)

The motor vehicle engineer I normally use for getting my conversions signed off explained that, because it is not a LR factory option any more it would not be approved unless you put a vehicle through a crash test - which seems to me a bit drastic.

At the same time he said that the after market seats manufactured in the UK are not up to AUS standards. The legislations in the UK are not as strict as the ones over here.

But as we all know every state has different rules when it comes to approving vehicle modifications.

Cheers,
Daniel

I found that when the automotive engineers said, 'and it's going to require destructive testing.' It was usually followed by or it needs to exceed the standard by a factor of ten and it's going to cost more than the vehicle is worth.

Enough talking later and they were a little calmer about it.

This conversation wasn't about front centre seats, either, so I suspect it might be a standard engineer conversation.

[isuzurover]

double post

[isuzurover]

Thanks Gavin for the intro :)

The motor vehicle engineer I normally use for getting my conversions signed off explained that, because it is not a LR factory option any more it would not be approved unless you put a vehicle through a crash test - which seems to me a bit drastic.

At the same time he said that the after market seats manufactured in the UK are not up to AUS standards. The legislations in the UK are not as strict as the ones over here.

But as we all know every state has different rules when it comes to approving vehicle modifications.

Cheers,
Daniel

I find that hard to believe... Maybe NSW is stricter... Or the rules are different for front row seating?

[Mulgo]

This conversation wasn't about front centre seats, either, so I suspect it might be a standard engineer conversation.

?? The conversation I had with the engineer was about the middle seat in the front row.

He will be coming to my workshop on Friday - will discuss this issue again with him. Will then update.

Cheers,
Daniel

[land864]

Daniel

The Exmoor trim one I have for sale has 4 solid fixing points on the base.

Not disimilar to the buckets

Noz

I would be happy to send it up for you to check it out. We'd just have to get an AULRO bod to bring it up.