Another day - another Puma issue

[Scallops]

Gee folks - I know I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but the old Puma is back to its pattern of reliability again. Engine management light now permanently illuminated.

Its kind of manically assuming - as, because it's taken LRA near on 3 weeks (and counting) to get a replacement steering box and front Uni joint, good 'ol Warren- T- Ford has managed to find another way to let me down in the interim. Guess its better than having the first 2 issues fixed and another failure cropping up 2.5 weeks later.

It is - isn't it???? :blink:

Now - I know this warning light can mean many things - and the engine drives as usual and sounds fine - so can I drive it to Austral or do I need a tilt tray?

[TimNZ]

Hi Scallops, Sorry to hear of your greif :( Can you get hold of an OBDII scanner to see what the DTC code is??

Tim

PS I'm off to see about trading in my 110 in today, not sure on what yet. The continual reliability issues are one thing, but LRA's habit of twisting the knife is the real killer.

[alittlebitconcerned]

I feel for you.
I have had the same issue with the light (finally fixed). My concern would be that the dealership would not honour the warranty if anything further went wrong with the car while being driven with the warning light on. That's the impression I got from my dealer anyway.
Good luck.

[dullbird]

Scallops if it the engine light is now on and staying on...but everything is working fine I would bet my bottom dollar its your EGR valve same thing happened to me when driving on the M5 probably about 6 or 7 months ago..just popped up out of the blue.

My Egr was faulty and they had to replace it......don't stress it mate It will be nothing.

[dullbird]

I feel for you.
I have had the same issue with the light (finally fixed). My concern would be that the dealership would not honour the warranty if anything further went wrong with the car while being driven with the warning light on. That's the impression I got from my dealer anyway.
Good luck.


The best thing you can do in that situation is tell them its on tell them its driving fine and ask them if they wanted flat bedded or not.:) I had several instances when my light was coming on for other reasons and then went off after several starts..dealer at the time said keep dirving it if it feels ok let us know if it comes on again...they were very good about it...

If you inform them and let them make the call then your covered:)

[Scallops]

Thanks everyone.

[Scallops]

Update - light gone out. The vehicle drove as per usual even when it was on. I'll be getting Austral to check the error log. Looks like these vehicles are voodoo prone...

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/106920-puma-check-engine-light-amber.html

[pc3]

Update - light gone out. The vehicle drove as per usual even when it was on. I'll be getting Austral to check the error log. Looks like these vehicles are voodoo prone...

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/106920-puma-check-engine-light-amber.html

We have a fleet of D Maxs at the company I work for. Plenty of issues with them and engine light coming on and going into limp mode has been common. New defenders are not the only car with issues

[Scallops]

We have a fleet of D Maxs at the company I work for. Plenty of issues with them and engine light coming on and going into limp mode has been common. New defenders are not the only car with issues

Heya mate - I love Rovers - I'm a member of 2 Land Rover Clubs! :D I was just posting to see if I could still drive it - to get it fixed. ;)

How is yours coming along?

[Drover]

I drive a Ford Ranger (AKA - Mazda BT50) at work, engine light comes on all the time, apparently EGR related. To start with I used to report it to fleet services and have it fixed, but it is so common I just ignore it now and it goes out - eventualy.


The problems that I have experienced with the Ranger certainly don't stop there ! but it is good vehicle.

[PAT303]

My Hilux used to flash it's warning lights too,was still doing it when I got rid of it. Pat

[keith5]

Help, this is driving me nuts...............can anyone tell me how land rover lost the army contract after more than fifty years with them?
their has not been much discussed in the media about it......after all it must have been one of the longest car contracts in history and what about the money side of it? Not exactly a small sum by any standards?
Mercedes g wagons......

[SloMoBro]

G'day Scallops, I had my engine light stay on and ended
up being a dirty sensor on the air flow meter.
A quick clean and all ok. Hope this helps to ease your mind
a bit.

[Scallops]

G'day Scallops, I had my engine light stay on and ended
up being a dirty sensor on the air flow meter.
A quick clean and all ok. Hope this helps to ease your mind
a bit.

I suspect mine might be a similar issue - the engine bay is covered in talc like dust so I'll get some Contact cleaner and give it a clean up. Thanks.

[amtravic1]

Help, this is driving me nuts...............can anyone tell me how land rover lost the army contract after more than fifty years with them?
their has not been much discussed in the media about it......after all it must have been one of the longest car contracts in history and what about the money side of it? Not exactly a small sum by any standards?
Mercedes g wagons......

I believe it was because Land Rover could not supply Defenders for the time specified by the Defence forces (15 years?) due to the new Defender coming in a couple of years.

[solmanic]

I still believe the Defender's issues are just protestations against being ignored in favour of Matilda. You need to spend quality time with both an an equal basis. But if the issues with them are wearing too thin consider getting one neutered so they don't produce offspring. All you need now is a busted-arse series 2 and you'll go mental.

[extreme]

It is getting a bit beyond a joke now :mad:. I do feel for you Scallops.

Regards

[topnham]

foed ranger good are you on drugs i work at ford **** box crap

[pc3]

Heya mate - I love Rovers - I'm a member of 2 Land Rover Clubs! :D I was just posting to see if I could still drive it - to get it fixed. ;)

How is yours coming along?

Scallops I wrote that all wrong, what I mean is I think all this stuff is a result of the new common rail motors. I'm not convinced that ANY manufacturer has perfected it yet.

[abaddonxi]

I still believe the Defender's issues are just protestations against being ignored in favour of Matilda. You need to spend quality time with both an an equal basis. But if the issues with them are wearing too thin consider getting one neutered so they don't produce offspring. All you need now is a busted-arse series 2 and you'll go mental.

I can see a custody battle coming on.

[LR D4]

foed ranger good are you on drugs i work at ford **** box crap The Ford ranger at our work has also had the engine check light on multiple times...... not crap.....:o:o:o

[TimNZ]

Scallops I wrote that all wrong, what I mean is I think all this stuff is a result of the new common rail motors. I'm not convinced that ANY manufacturer has perfected it yet.

With my (puma) 110, the only reliable part has been the motor. The drive train has been the real issue.

[Scallops]

The light has remained off - vehicle drives as it always did - which is well - so when it goes back into Austral to have the steering box and Uni replaced I'll get an ID on the error code.

All the electrical wires under the bonnet - which are bare - is it just me, or should these all have boots?

PS - Simon and Andrew - I'm fully aware that Grover is just being kurt due to his Auntie Matilda getting all the attention - so I gave Grover a nice bath in McGuire's car suds and polish as I gently suggested to him that I really need to be on the recieving end of some trouble free km's - otherwise, I continued on, whispering gently in soothing tones - IT"S OFF TO THE KNACKERING YARDS (used car lot) WITH YOU - YOU CRAPPED OUT HEAP OF JUNK! :twisted: :wasntme:

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Custody battle?

MR will get Matilda
Dealer will get Grover

scallops will get:bangin:

[TimNZ]

Hi Scallops, quite a few of the connectors in the engine bay of my 110 don't have boots. (Perhaps this is to show people that have owned TD5's there is no oil in the loom??).

Tim

[solmanic]

...I'm fully aware that Grover is just being kurt due to his Auntie Matilda getting all the attention

I see. So you've made them related to avoid any incestuous liaisons.




Although that just means if there are any, the barstard offspring will be deformed.

[scarry]

Scallops,i wonder who has more factory fitted original parts,Matilda or Grover?

One may be jealous of the other;)

Whats wrong with the steering box,is it leaking?

[Scallops]

Paul - this isn't a tough one to call - I mean, Matilda is 100% original, as is Grover - but unfortunately, in terms of a reflection of Solihull's quality management - Matilda's parts are largely original, original. :angel:

precisely your point. :(

I do gain much satisfaction from having a true classic.

And yes - steering box leaking - plus, front Uni joint crapped out - # 2 for me - God I'm a hard man. :D

[scarry]

God I'm a hard man. :D

Must be the way you drive it:p:p;):):)

Matilda's power steering box shouldn't leak in a hurry anyway.I remember the old man always having front drive safts rebuilt on the Series one though.And fuel pumps.

I am just hoping Justin's gets to 52k or so before it is out of warranty,so hopefully everything should be sorted.:angel:

Its all fun,if everything went smoothly life would be boring.

Umm,it appears the Puma now has a smashed windscreen,suppose i will hear that story tomorrow:(

[lardy]

Hi Scallops, Sorry to hear of your greif :( Can you get hold of an OBDII scanner to see what the DTC code is??

Tim

PS I'm off to see about trading in my 110 in today, not sure on what yet. The continual reliability issues are one thing, but LRA's habit of twisting the knife is the real killer.

late td5

[lardy]

FFs Scallops,
You are making me feel virtuous for not moving with the times and purchasing a slow (in comparison) puffing billy 300 tdi.
Should I start looking out for a good one for you mate lol.
How you keep the faith is anyones guess

[Scallops]

FFs Scallops,
You are making me feel virtuous for not moving with the times and purchasing a slow (in comparison) puffing billy 300 tdi.
Should I start looking out for a good one for you mate lol.
How you keep the faith is anyones guess

No choice?

[Maxximus]

Help, this is driving me nuts...............can anyone tell me how land rover lost the army contract after more than fifty years with them?
their has not been much discussed in the media about it......after all it must have been one of the longest car contracts in history and what about the money side of it? Not exactly a small sum by any standards?
Mercedes g wagons......

Defence requirement is that the supplier is to be able to guarantee 10 years of spare parts. As LR is in the process of changing the 110 variants to meet US and European passenger and pedestrain safety requirments, LR could not guarantee 10 years worth of spare.

It has nothing to do with the capabilities of the vehicles

[inside]

5 year old thread dig but LR can supply parts. From the horse's mouth...

"With production of current Defender now in its final phase, Land Rover has committed to supply replacement parts for 15 years for this automotive icon. Thereafter, owners of the current Defender will be able to maintain their treasured car by ordering genuine Land Rover Heritage Parts through Land Rover's global network of retailers."

[Scallops]

Must be an old thread - my Defender has been going like a German Band for ages - I love it.

[inside]

Good to hear.

[Maxximus]

5 year old thread dig but LR can supply parts. From the horse's mouth...

"With production of current Defender now in its final phase, Land Rover has committed to supply replacement parts for 15 years for this automotive icon. Thereafter, owners of the current Defender will be able to maintain their treasured car by ordering genuine Land Rover Heritage Parts through Land Rover's global network of retailers."

Though they would not guarantee the ADF 10 years worth of parts in the amounts required.

[ozrob]

Though they would not guarantee the ADF 10 years worth of parts in the amounts required.
The G-Wagen has some extra special bolt on stuff that makes it lightly armored, as well as able it to carry 4 troops in full battle gear.
Auto transmission.
The rear of the G is quite small as they are fitted with a air compressor for re-inflating tyres.
As a result all G vehicles need to tow a trailer to carry the extra gear.
Land Engineering project has been going for over many years to find a Tri-Service replacement to the fleet.
I personally think a V6 CRTDI diesel is too complicated for a military vehicle, but technically they wont be used in full battle as there are other vehicles that fit the role.