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VladTepes
13th July 2010, 06:24 PM
The one thats in the Defender is... to put it mildy.. rubbish. It's a black bottle jack type of things which you have to wind up and down. Bloody slow and tedious I can tell you. Plus the handle bits seem to be bent, or at least bent wrongly.

My trolley jack is WAY to heavy and bulky to carry about !!

Anyway what have people found that is best (for wheel changing not recovery).

I'd appreciate all input / experience.




And yes i have read this thread:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/74575-need-jack-my-county-2.html

Blknight.aus
13th July 2010, 10:18 PM
the red rover jack as fitted to discos.

Dave110
14th July 2010, 08:07 AM
I bought a 7 ton Masada jack made in Japan from supercrap for $120 which was cheaper than the bidding war on $bay for a 2 ton disco jack

austastar
14th July 2010, 10:59 AM
Hi,
I have a bottle jack with the Puma D130 ute, and used it a lot recently with a pile of besser blocks and planks to remove the tray.
It worked ok, but was prone to bleed down fairly quickly.
I have an old Lightburn hydraulic jack in the truck that will eventually go in the D130 as a backup.
cheers

weeds
14th July 2010, 11:26 AM
i measured the gap between the ground and diff/jacking point with a flat tyre, went to the wreckers and brought a bottle jack that was a little bit smaller.

it need a top up with oil its been going good for four or so years


one rock lobster ($20) from memory

VladTepes
14th July 2010, 11:48 AM
I bought a 7 ton Masada jack made in Japan from supercrap for $120 which was cheaper than the bidding war on $bay for a 2 ton disco jack

Going well is it ?
How does the height compare to the standard Disco bottle jack ?

Anyone know what a standard disco bottle jack can be had for $ wise ?

Michael2
14th July 2010, 02:05 PM
I carry a Land Rover jacking point adaptor for the high lift. The problem with that and the original Defender jack is that you jack the body up so much before you get a wheel off the ground, that the jack becomes unstable.

I also carry a hydraulic jack. The RR Classic / D1 jacks are best as they have a yoke that locates well on the axle housing. So if we're going on a family trip, I take the jack out of the RRC.

I think that I would really like to get an air/hydraulic jack, so I can just slide it under the axle and turn the air compressor on. I think it would be faster, safer, easier to adjust and mean I wouldn't get as dirty crouched on the ground manually jacking it up. Friends and I are toying with the idea of making a jack from a (suspension) airbag, which would do the same thing, but be a lot lighter.

Michael2
14th July 2010, 02:06 PM
...Anyone know what a standard disco bottle jack can be had for $ wise ?

they're going for about $50 on ebay

austastar
14th July 2010, 03:34 PM
Hi,
any one lashed out on one of these?
http://www.air-up.com/product/prod_jack1_up.jpg

They aren't cheap either.

8<----------------------
Air Jack
AU-JACK1
Working pressure 100 psi.
Lift capacity 2500 kilos (2.5 ton)
Minimum height 160 mm.
Maximum height 465 mm.
Total weight 13.5 kg.

For more information click here. (http://www.air-up.com/products.html#)

Retail
AU$750.00
GST Inclusive
8<-----------------------------

cheers

VladTepes
14th July 2010, 03:39 PM
I bought a 7 ton Masada jack made in Japan from supercrap for $120 which was cheaper than the bidding war on $bay for a 2 ton disco jack

If you look at the pdf attached to Dave's post earlier up the oage you can see that mob do a pneumatic / hydraulic jack which can be operated manyally as well, in the event air is not available.
It's not clear whether the air has to be at very high pressures but I wouldn't think so.

2234jones
14th July 2010, 03:40 PM
I use a trolley jack with a 3 tonne rating, very handy and compact too in a mini suitcase.


Cheers Mark

Land Rover 200 Tdi Defender owner (http://landroverfreak.blogspot.com)

lardy
14th July 2010, 06:59 PM
I bought a 7 ton Masada jack made in Japan from supercrap for $120 which was cheaper than the bidding war on $bay for a 2 ton disco jack

Dave with the large square base those jacks look pretty stable.with a steel or hardwood plate to spread the load and give a larger foot print would they be good on sand ???

Dave110
14th July 2010, 08:44 PM
I'm really happy with the jack used it a couple of times now mainly as a workshop jack in the field as it raises the axle rather than the body first as the genuine or hi lift. I also carry a hi lift jack with a defender adaptor and a plastic hi lift off road base and this bottle jack fits in the same recess as the hi lift to raise the axle

Dave110
14th July 2010, 08:54 PM
pictures photo shows a disco jack in base rather than lay in the dirt I use a lift mate to raise the wheel to pack stuff under

rick130
14th July 2010, 09:19 PM
I carry a Land Rover jacking point adaptor for the high lift. The problem with that and the original Defender jack is that you jack the body up so much before you get a wheel off the ground, that the jack becomes unstable.

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Useless on a 130 as a 130 doesn't have 110 jacking points (they are welded up)

Vlad, I have an 8 tonne Armstrong bottle jack that juuust fits under the Sals axle tubes with a flat but outlifts the crappy Land Rover hydraulic jack any day.

I still have the crappy maroon Italian made Land Rover jack somewhere but it needs at least a seal kit through it, whereas the Armstrong jack is still lifting well after twenty years of use, firstly under my F100 and now the 'fender.
It straps into the standard spot beside the box on the passenger side rear door too, even though it's a bit bigger than the OE jack.

lardy
14th July 2010, 11:02 PM
Useless on a 130 as a 130 doesn't have 110 jacking points (they are welded up)

Vlad, I have an 8 tonne Armstrong bottle jack that juuust fits under the Sals axle tubes with a flat but outlifts the crappy Land Rover hydraulic jack any day.

I still have the crappy maroon Italian made Land Rover jack somewhere but it needs at least a seal kit through it, whereas the Armstrong jack is still lifting well after twenty years of use, firstly under my F100 and now the 'fender.
It straps into the standard spot beside the box on the passenger side rear door too, even though it's a bit bigger than the OE jack.

Hi Rick me again,
Do they still produce Armstrong jacks and have you a pic?
Will it work in the field as opposed to on the road where you would expect it to with no bother.
Hi-lifts are not much chop for a 130 are they ?

rick130
15th July 2010, 08:02 AM
Lardy, the one I have just fits under the axle with a flat, it really does push the limits a little.

I assume Armstrong still sell jacks, I bought mine from Gasweld over here, I lost my old Lightburn (bounced out of the back of my Jeep :oops2: ) and not thinking straight ordered an Armstrong thinking the Lightburn was an Armstrong....

It turned up, and was actually made in Taiwan, not the Uk like I'd assumed but it's been a foolproof jack, always works, never had to touch it.

I have a two tonne Masada floor jack but use the Armstrong at home on everything as it's a much beefier jack, the trolley jack might say 2 tonne but it sure as hell wont lift one end of a 4WD, one corner if I'm lucky.

I use the Hi-lift too, I can swing it off the bull bar and I have side jacking points at the rear off the rear cross member.