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Disco3QLD
13th October 2010, 01:16 PM
So Defenders aren't just Defenders?
I don't know much about them but since owning a D3 I have noticed plenty on the road & really like them & from what I hear are great offroad.

I was looking to buy a Diesel, dual cab defender for around $15k for use as a work ute during the week & a family offroader on the weekend. Creature comforts are not expected.

What model/year should I be looking to buy for around this price?
130 or 110?
TDi or TD5?
Or is it a waste of time looking in this price range?

Thank you,

rainman
13th October 2010, 01:36 PM
Up until this year we didn't get 110 dual cabs in Australia, only 130s. You won't find a TD5 for that price. You will be able to get a reasonable, usable Tdi, but it won't be perfect. Expect to have to spend some time and money on it within the first 6 months.

Mick_Marsh
13th October 2010, 03:24 PM
I recently (last few weeks) placed a bid of $20,000 for this one
2987129872
The winning bid was in the high teens.
I didn't have the winning bid. Go figure?
Early MY2000's unregistered Dual Cab Defender TD5's with under 100,000km at the auctions are fetching between high teens and mid twenties at the moment.

nuggetx1
13th October 2010, 03:34 PM
Which auctions are you refering to? I have a similar budget and have been searching for a single cab 110 for a while, but in the past 6 months or so have only seen 1 with the TD5 engine come up for sale?

Thanks

Marshall
13th October 2010, 03:50 PM
been searching for a single cab 110 ...

Thanks

UncleHo put me onto these guys, very helpful blokes, especially Paxton in spares... They currently have one or two single cabs there, give them a call! www.britishoffroad.com (http://www.britishoffroad.com)

gconran
13th October 2010, 04:26 PM
Okay mate...


1998 LAND ROVER DEFENDER TDI 130 Private Cars For Sale in WA - carsales.com.au (http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=9161202&__Qpb=true&Cr=2&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_PriceSort_Decimal |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&keywords=&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294965541% 204294964692%20413%20904&silo=1011&PriceTo=413&seot=1&tsrc=allcarhome&__Nne=15&trecs=4&__sid=12BA69F31DC6)


2000 LAND ROVER DEFENDER CREW CAB 130 Private Cars For Sale in WA - carsales.com.au (http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=8420499&__Qpb=true&Cr=3&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_PriceSort_Decimal |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&keywords=&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294965541% 204294964692%20413%20904&silo=1011&PriceTo=413&seot=1&tsrc=allcarhome&__Nne=15&trecs=4&__sid=12BA69F31DC6)


Heres 2 mate for sale in WA... not sure where you are... But I guess QLD?

They have both been on sale for at least a month. I think one of them for maybe longer. I have actually seen and test driven the second one as well and its not at all bad. Only reason I didnt get it is because it was a tray back and I wanted the wagon.

See how you go there...

bv73
13th October 2010, 04:49 PM
Keep an eye out on the markets section on this website, ill be posting my 95 dual cab 130 in a few days (not far from brizzy either ).

juddy
13th October 2010, 07:25 PM
I recently (last few weeks) placed a bid of $20,000 for this one
2987129872
The winning bid was in the high teens.
I didn't have the winning bid. Go figure?
Early MY2000's unregistered Dual Cab Defender TD5's with under 100,000km at the auctions are fetching between high teens and mid twenties at the moment.

Missing some body panels this one...

Mick_Marsh
13th October 2010, 07:47 PM
Missing some body panels this one...
No. This one is missing the body panels.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members/mick_marsh-albums-my-101-rapier-tractor-30-248-101-2.html
I was thinking of getting the Defender to tow the thing on the trailer.
Oh, and we must catch up and talk further when you get back.

Disco3QLD
14th October 2010, 06:58 AM
Keep an eye out on the markets section on this website, ill be posting my 95 dual cab 130 in a few days (not far from brizzy either ).

bv73. I'll keep an eye out, any idea's on price range yet?

So it looks like a TDi between '95 & 2000 in the high teens to mid twenties. Unless you are lucky enough to come a across a cheap TD5? Looks like I'll have to save up a few more bucks.
- Is there a big difference between the TD5 & the TDi?
- Are all models the same mechanically in this range?
- Are we all like seagulls when one comes up for sale?

GCONRAN, The one with the canopy looked pretty good but sold & about as far as possible from Brissy. Be a good return test drive:)

Marshall, Good web site. Thanks. If I get one, those guys would be pretty handy I recon.

Mick_Marsh, Do you mean they are just scattered through all of the car auctions or one in particular?

Mick_Marsh
14th October 2010, 07:45 AM
Mick_Marsh, Do you mean they are just scattered through all of the car auctions or one in particular?
You never know what comes up and where. I browse all the ones (auctioneers) I know of and am keen to find more.

bv73
14th October 2010, 07:54 AM
You never know what comes up and where. I browse all the ones (auctioneers) I know of and am keen to find more.

Hey Mick , have you seen this site? one of the better ones
Auction Finder Australia | car auctions-tips & guides-auction sites & rooms. (http://www.auctionfinder.com.au/)

rainman
14th October 2010, 09:07 AM
bv73. I'll keep an eye out, any idea's on price range yet?

So it looks like a TDi between '95 & 2000 in the high teens to mid twenties. Unless you are lucky enough to come a across a cheap TD5? Looks like I'll have to save up a few more bucks.
- Is there a big difference between the TD5 & the TDi?
- Are all models the same mechanically in this range?


There isn't a whole lot of difference between the Tdi and the TD5. The biggest is obviously the engine. The TD5 was the first electronically controlled diesel. It runs 90 kW and 300Nm as opposed to the Tdi's 83 kW and 265Nm. Fuel comsumption is almost exactly the same. The TD5 can be chipped up to 140 kW which makes a massive difference. The Tdi's biggest issue isn't peak power/torque but what it makes low down but this is easily fixed with some injector pump tweaking. Even if you are only slightly mechanically minded it's easy to do, and far cheaper than chipping the TD5. Both have the R380 gearbox and LT230 transfer case.

Downsides to a TD5 - higher registration because it's a 5 cylinder, and if you break down in the middle of nowhere the Tdi can be fixed MacGyver style with a ballpoint pen and a paperclip.

Apart from some changes to the dash, there's not a whole lot else that seperates them (someone please do tell if I've missed something).