Another Engine Conversion Thread

[Randylandy]

I am getting to the stage where I need to make up my mind as to what engine to run in my project 109" tray back Orriginally it had the 2.6l 6 in it.

It currentley has a falcon 250 x flow in it but I am not happy with the state of how the conversion was done I don't think it will pass going over the pits how it is now. my other big concern is the legalities of having a 4l engine replacing a 2.6 in WA, I really don't want to have the hassel and expence of going through the engineering proving tests if they apply to this conversion.

My current options are:
I have a 186 from a rusted s2 I could put in so have all the addaptors.

I Know of a good 2.6 landrover 6 that could go back in for licencing puposes then just put the good stuff in later.

Also have a ED33 and a 4bd1 sitting at the shed. Would love a diesel but looks like will be a hassel fitting

If it was not a 6cyl chassis it would be a no brainer and would just put a 2.5 landy diesel in.

I would love a 200 tdi but can't justify the expence to the minerstry of finance and war.

A this stage I am probably leaning towards the 186 as I can get rid of all the dodgy falcon mounts, I have all the parts and being a lover capacity engine than the falcon hopfully less drama getting it re-licenced.

If I was to go the 186 route how do I go about getting it all re-licenced in wa do I still have to go through the engineers approval rubbish or is it a simple matter of putting it over the pits?

[Blknight.aus]

nope its got to be engineered and then pitted.

If you are in brissy I have a fairly friendly engineer and a friendly roadworthy bloke.

[Randylandy]

No I am in WA. just got back from having a nosey at the s2 and it is actually a red 138 a mate just told me it was probably a factory fitted motor. Has anyone had any experience with these engines?

[101RRS]

No I am in WA. just got back from having a nosey at the s2 and it is actually a red 138 a mate just told me it was probably a factory fitted motor. Has anyone had any experience with these engines?

No factory holden motors in a landy. Have you considered an early carbied Rover 3.5 V8. Alternatively though much rarer and maybe parts coulod be an issue the 3 litre version of the Rover 2.6 six. I understand it is a much nicer engine than the 2.6.

Garry

[Randylandy]

No not really interested in a v8 just wanted a simple way of getting the old girl back on the road without the hassels, looks like the easiest way will be able to do this is to put a 2.6 in temporaraly to get it re licenced then replace afterwards with another donk. I know its a bit dodgy but as it will only be used as a fishing bus on south cost of wa it is unlikeley it will ever see a town or other trafic again.

Surley all these holden powered landies out there have just been retrofitted with no interferance from the powers that be.

[TJWA]

Surley all these holden powered landies out there have just been retrofitted with no interferance from the powers that be.

That's something I wouldn't mind finding out. I spoke to our local pit man here in Collie who said it would be no problem to register as long as it was a pre-engineered conversion kit that came from a reputable company. Mine was a kit from Seaton Engineering in Perth. He also told me that there was no need to fit an imobiliser because of it's age (1979), the one thing he was not sure on was the standard Land Rover rear seats in the back which actually have four lap belts fitted. The key thing to do is go and talk to one of these pit people first to see what they will and won't pass without extra engineering approval. Some of them will not tell you a thing prior, simply charge you $90 to take it over, fail it, then give you a list of things that must be done (usually a couple of things they can do in their workshop).

What's your location?

[smith2a]

If I was to go the 186 route how do I go about getting it all re-licenced in wa do I still have to go through the engineers approval rubbish or is it a simple matter of putting it over the pits?

I have 2 x series Landrovers with 186 / 179 holden conversions and would be very interested in knowing the outcome of your query as I am yet to get either vehicle registered (I'm in WA also).

I heard of a bloke who recently did South West to Canning Stock Route trip in a S3 with 202 conversion without any major issues which makes me think the Holden Landrover configuration is a suitable option.

[Randylandy]

i'm in the center of nowhere, Hyden. Thats the same kind of responce I have been getting to but no definate answer. Also with going to a lower capacity engine was hoping would get away with no engineers ticket being needed. Keeping the falcon in its a big jump from 2.6 to 4L.

[TJWA]

i'm in the center of nowhere, Hyden. Thats the same kind of responce I have been getting to but no definate answer. Also with going to a lower capacity engine was hoping would get away with no engineers ticket being needed. Keeping the falcon in its a big jump from 2.6 to 4L.

I've heard before that they don't mind a 6cyl going into a car that was originally a 6cyl, it's only when you put a 6cyl or V8 into something that was originally a 4cyl when they start to ask for engineer certificates for the brakes and such.

[Randylandy]

yeah thats what I am thinking. I also belive has a thing about % of increased HP will raise eye brows

[Slunnie]

In NSW at least, the holden conversions up to a 202 didn't need certification.

Here is a doc from way back that explains this.
www.slunnie.com - Wheel & Tyre Guide1979 (http://www.slunnie.com/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=155)

The page in particular:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/08/612.jpg

[Randylandy]

Thanks slunnie just wonder if the bit at the end where it says "conversions must be inspected" will requre an engineer to inspect it or if the local mechanic will be able to do it?

[Slunnie]

I'm assuming the top of the page means it doesn't need an engineers report.

I'm assuming the bottom of the means it needs the standard blue slip inspection (not pink slip rego inspection)that is associated with a change of records for the RTA.

[Randylandy]

fingers crossed that that is the case. Will see if I caan track down the local mechanic/ inspector and see if he can clarify.

As to engine mounts, Does a 186 bolt up to the orriginal mounts or are new mounts welded to the chassey or bolted to it?

[Slunnie]

fingers crossed that that is the case. Will see if I caan track down the local mechanic/ inspector and see if he can clarify.

As to engine mounts, Does a 186 bolt up to the orriginal mounts or are new mounts welded to the chassey or bolted to it?
Not sure, but my one which was a factory 6 cyl, now a 202 I think is an adaptor plate to the gearbox and new engine mounts between the standard engine mount bushes on the chassis and the 202.

[ezyrama]

My 2a (Ralph) has a TD27 Nissan diesel in it, It has a 2nd set of engine mounts about 4" behind the originals and an adapter plate on the bell housing. It all fits up pretty well and the car went quite well too until I pulled it to pieces;). If you read July's issue of LRM it has a guy with a 200tdi in a 52 series 1 that rounds up a 2007 Ford Focus on a 1000ft hill climb. (not bad for a 60yr old car).

Cheers Ian

[garryseries3]

I am getting to the stage where I need to make up my mind as to what engine to run in my project 109" tray back Orriginally it had the 2.6l 6 in it.

It currentley has a falcon 250 x flow in it but I am not happy with the state of how the conversion was done I don't think it will pass going over the pits how it is now. my other big concern is the legalities of having a 4l engine replacing a 2.6 in WA, I really don't want to have the hassel and expence of going through the engineering proving tests if they apply to this conversion.

My current options are:
I have a 186 from a rusted s2 I could put in so have all the addaptors.

I Know of a good 2.6 landrover 6 that could go back in for licencing puposes then just put the good stuff in later.

If it was not a 6cyl chassis it would be a no brainer and would just put a 2.5 landy diesel in.

I would love a 200 tdi but can't justify the expence to the minerstry of finance and war.

A this stage I am probably leaning towards the 186 as I can get rid of all the dodgy falcon mounts, I have all the parts and being a lover capacity engine than the falcon hopfully less drama getting it re-licenced.

If I was to go the 186 route how do I go about getting it all re-licenced in wa do I still have to go through the engineers approval rubbish or is it a simple matter of putting it over the pits?

You could sell all those motors and recoup the cash then buy a good 200Tdi and bolt it in, easy conversion. The Isuzu if its a good one should get you there money wise itself, you would have cleared out the shed, gained some room and might even get creditabilty with the ministry in the process.

[jakeslouw]

My 2a (Ralph) has a TD27 Nissan diesel in it, It has a 2nd set of engine mounts about 4" behind the originals and an adapter plate on the bell housing. It all fits up pretty well and the car went quite well too until I pulled it to pieces;). If you read July's issue of LRM it has a guy with a 200tdi in a 52 series 1 that rounds up a 2007 Ford Focus on a 1000ft hill climb. (not bad for a 60yr old car).

Cheers Ian

I have a Nissan Pathy with the TD27T3 (Terrano 1 motor, no IC), and I'm very impressed with the power and the lower engine noise compared to Isuzu and Toyota.
Did you have any gearing issues with that motor in the 2a? What about power, did it have enough grunt?

I'm looking at buying a series 3 with a Chev 4.1 in it, but I'm not too keen on the fuel consumption.

I know the TD27 and I can pick up low-mileage engines from Singapore for about AU$1500, with turbo and all belt-driven extras.