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Disco4SE
9th November 2010, 03:23 PM
Hi all,
Had one of my alloy wheels re-done as it was damaged and in the meantime, drove on my spare.
The new wheel was put back on which left me to put the spare back up underneath.
I wound the bracket and cable down as close to the ground as possible. It was still a fair way off the ground, which meant that I had to crawl under and lift the wheel as high as possible whilst struggling with the pain in the arse bracket.
In my way of thinking, the cable should be long enough to allow you to thread the bracket through without having to lift the wheel off the ground.
Is this normal, or is there something wrong with my cable/bracket set up????
Advice would be much appreciated as I let out way too many 'F' words in the process.
Cheers, Craig :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

weeds
9th November 2010, 03:39 PM
can you lower the suspension?....maybe it was in raised mode

btw i only dream of owning a D4

Celtoid
9th November 2010, 03:40 PM
Sorry mate, can't help you on your question but wanted to ask if the wheel re-work was expensive and how bad was the damage?

I broke all 4 wheels on Fraser Island but the car was still driveable....just couldn't balance the wheels. Insurance covered it though so didn't have to worry....but was thinking if I were to just bend one in the future or something like that.....how much would it cost.

I have the 19" D4 wheels.

Cheers,

Kev.

Disco4SE
9th November 2010, 03:45 PM
Sorry mate, can't help you on your question but wanted to ask if the wheel re-work was expensive and how bad was the damage?

I broke all 4 wheels on Fraser Island but the car was still driveable....just couldn't balance the wheels. Insurance covered it though so didn't have to worry....but was thinking if I were to just bend one in the future or something like that.....how much would it cost.

I have the 19" D4 wheels.

Cheers,

Kev.
Hi Kev,
Mine were scratched, not broken as such. It cost me $110.00 inc fitting and balancing.
I also have the 19" wheels (D4 SE 3.0)
Cheers, Craig

Disco4SE
9th November 2010, 03:46 PM
can you lower the suspension?....maybe it was in raised mode

btw i only dream of owning a D4
No, it was in normal mode. Still wouldn't have been enough.
BTW: GO CATS.

Celtoid
9th November 2010, 03:49 PM
Hi Kev,
Mine were scratched, not broken as such. It cost me $110.00 inc fitting and balancing.
I also have the 19" wheels (D4 SE 3.0)
Cheers, Craig


Oh OK, thanks. Apparently some alloys can be re-rolled.....so I thought that was what you meant.

Regards,

Kev.

Yup same car but mine's Stornoway Grey and had a few upgrades...Sat Nav and other bits and bobs. I wanted white..... :(

BigJon
9th November 2010, 03:51 PM
Did you have tension on the hanger when you were winding it down?

Disco4SE
9th November 2010, 04:16 PM
Did you have tension on the hanger when you were winding it down?
Yes, I had my son underneath pulling on the cable while I was winding......to the point where I thought I would break something

WhiteD3
9th November 2010, 04:32 PM
I find in the D3 that the cable is just long enough. But it's such a pain trying to manoeuvre the hook into the rim I end up with the spare lying on my leg so there's some slack to play with.

Disco4SE
9th November 2010, 05:13 PM
I think that LR need to have a serious think about the spare wheel set up when they are designing the D5.
Not only was the cable too short but the hook is a pain in the arse to thread through. Having to unload the whole of the wagon is no fun either.
I felt like I had gone a few rounds with Mike Tyson, time I finally finished puting the spare back up in its place. :mad:

Bushwanderer
10th November 2010, 05:05 AM
Where is the "worlds smallest violin" emoticon?

Understand your Disco and work with it!

CaverD3
10th November 2010, 05:16 AM
Plenty of lenghth on mine. :whistling:

Make sure the cable isn't trapped on itself or kinked. If kinked you may need a new winder.

discomaniac
10th November 2010, 01:04 PM
Hi,
Was told when I picked up my MY11 D4 that the spare cable is now even longer and can hook into the spare from way out behind the vehicle. Haven't needed to try it yet. Will report back if I need to use it.
Only used the spare once in 5 1/2 years on the D3. That cable was long enough to reach the ground easily.

discomaniac

Disco4SE
10th November 2010, 03:36 PM
Thanks all for your info. Sounds like there is a problem with mine.
Had to vent my frustrations being under the vehicle in extreme heat with tyre black from a**hole to breakfast.
Cheers, Craig

connock
10th November 2010, 05:42 PM
Ever concidered a swing away?

Pedro_The_Swift
10th November 2010, 06:03 PM
the spare storage and replacement is straight out of the Ark compared to the rest of the car--

steved01
12th November 2010, 03:52 PM
'I broke all 4 wheels on Fraser Island -Kev'

How did you manage that?! I've been there several times with no worries...

Jesse B
18th November 2010, 07:33 PM
Thanks all for your info. Sounds like there is a problem with mine.
Cheers, Craig

Hey Craig - I think there must be an issue with yours - I had a flat (wrecked a Pirelli Scorpion - ouch $$$$) and had no issue with the length of the cable on my D4 SE. Am still searching for the perfect bottle jack tho, to replace the scissors with - found a 3 stage (Trade Torque) that gives plenty of lift, but its just too big to go under the back seats. :( Most others I've found do not give enough lift without using those dumb screw-out extensions (which you can't use anyway, coz the basic jack height is close to too much to get under the chassis rail without adding even more).

Disco4SE
18th November 2010, 07:57 PM
I ended up working out what I did wrong (with a little help from Discojools).
The cable wound right down ok when I took the spare out. Seeing as though I wasnt intending to put the spare back for a few days, I wound the cable straight back up without any tension on it.
The cable must have force on it when wound back up.:(
Cheers, Craig

AGRO
18th November 2010, 08:48 PM
Hi Jess B,

I have been looking for a reasonable bottle jack and have settled on this one

LARZEP BOTTLE JACK AB30421 4t - there are many options and all imported from Spain

Have a look at the Web site and you'll see a vast array of jacks with all the specs.

I've noted you are an Albany D4 owner - beautiful locale with so many destinations worthy of the beast within a few kms.

Last weekend I took delivery of my D4 down there and had ocasion to use te OEM Jack and Spare Winder on my way home. All worked fine, but the scissor jacket was definitely at its limit without any chocks underneath.

Graeme
18th November 2010, 09:28 PM
Agro,
What's the difference between AB30420 and AB30421? They seem to have the same specs.

Jesse B
18th November 2010, 10:05 PM
AGRO,

Will the Larzep 4 tonner fit under the second row of seats? The base measurements I found on the web (125 x 125) are very close to the Trade Torque 5t I currently have (135 x 128) - which won't go under the seats. This may be more due to other dimensions (eg barrel dia, height) or to the carry handle welded to the side - but not being able to store easily makes it a bit useless.

Just for comparison sake - your Larzep has a starting height of 140 mm, and a non-screw assisted lift of 190 mm. The Trade Torque beast starts out at 210 mm but has a non-screw lift of 250 mm. Thinking this through - the shorter height should make fitting the Larzep under the rear seats easier, but will mean you need to use the screw extension or a jacking block to make full use of the 190 mm lift - and from my experience that will only just be enough to get your spare onto the hub. Indeed, it might be just short of enough - which could be a drama if you're relying on it. Might pay to do some careful measuring!

And yes, Albany is a lovely place - with lots of great tracks nearby. And we're blessed with a damn good LR dealer down here too!

AGRO
19th November 2010, 12:33 AM
Hi Graeme,

The difference between the two is that one has a U shaped bar on the top of the screw fitting that would allow the chassis to be seated in rather than a smaller screwed top that the chassis would balance on.

I don't know about under the seat - I store them behind the second row in the third row foot well.

Graeme
19th November 2010, 06:27 AM
Thanks Agro.
Hmm, something else to go with the 2nd battery and tow coupling!

WhiteD3
19th November 2010, 07:07 AM
Gents,

This thread my be of interest re the jack. 1st page re the jack; 2nd page re the attachment.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/52937-new-d3-bottle-jack.html